Merkava 4 armor is long overdue to be buffed

Israel negative bias

Side armor has more protection than front armor

It’s really tragic

war thunder won’t even go as far as to acknowledge that the APS isn’t working

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What is this? is that a joke? WHY IS THE APS REPLACING THE ARMOR??? CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN???

I can confirm this is actually true, the Turret Modular Armor is a different package on the 4M. This level space is there ive had multiple occasions in my service i could take i look in there while mechanics were doing repairs.

And what you have showed is the front of the aps, not the back

There is however a model fix i’d like implemented and thats the breach being open on the 4 series and close on the 1,2,3 series.

Okay then. I got some things to ask:

  1. How about these things behind the turret wedges, which are 80-120mm thick and completely missing from the game?(adding them could potentially solve the armor issue of the turret, if they were modeled from something hard like RHA for example)
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  2. Why is the hull composition 3 materials in the game when it can be clearly seen that its just 2 materials? Did they just make up the materials?
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This may not be the same thickness but its there.

I’m sorry, I didn’t know you are expert on armor materials? Just because you see the engine bay door open and it has 2 “steps” this does not disclose the armor composition. I agree the armor model is wrong but these pictures unfortunately dont show enough information.

They do show that there are 2 different types of armor compositions(2 steps, each step might be have different armor composition). Knowing that Israel developed SLERA which is also against KE rounds(why would Israel develop reactive armor against KE and CE and not use it on their main battle tank, Merkava Mk4+?), its very likely that in one of the two ‘steps’ (one of the two main armor compositions) there is probably SLERA (I can guess that the top part is SLERA, and the bottom part is somekind of different a composition). Yeah thats my opinion I ain’t an expert but I cannot trust this game anymore about armor - its not really realistic(Merkava Mk4 engine’s side missing armor, Mk3 has hollow armor in the turret, Namer has no armor at all…)

I also really need to ask this question:

If T-90M/M1A2 Abrams/Leopard 2A7V had their turret armor made only from NERA, how good would they perform? and how good would the Merkava Mk4 perform if it had not only NERA?

Key word “might have”

Exactly, which is why your statement is invalid unfortunately.

We both agree the Merkavas were done dirty, but your “opinion” does not contribute the cause. Only reliable pictures and sources (like the pictures of armor with “explosive” written all over them).

Oh yeah the picture with the word “explosive” might also support my opinion but yes thats my opinion so no valid proof so no armor fix

gaijin case closed ✅

Apperantly Israel, the small country, is surrounded by countries that could turn into enemies, like Egypt for example which has 1000+ Abrams tanks. But oh yeah the Merkava Mk4 got no KE protection because of small terror organizations that keep barking day and night, sure, whatever. But what about the countries with tanks that could invade from the ground? Makes no sense at all, zero logic.

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בן כמה אתה בחייאת כפרה עליך
כולה מסביר לך מה הלוז מבחינתם אתה חושב שאני לא רוצה שיתקנו את הטנק?

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Its an amogus obviusly

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אני 17 ובאמת שנמאס עליי המשחק הזה והיוצרים שלו גם כן אלה אין להם מוח או שהם בכוונה עושים את זה, מסיבות “פוליטיות” אני מניח, בכל מקרה נראה שאין באמת התקדמות עם זה, אני בספק גדול אם הם אי פעם ירצו להעמיק בנושא הזה, או שכנראה ימשיכו רק להוסיף כלי צבא חדשים בלי לחשוב פעמיים.

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Guys I really would have no idea what you’re talking about if it weren’t for Google Translate. Why are you speaking Hebrew out of nowhere?

idk honestly

אני מסכים. אין לי מושג מה הסיבה שהם מזניחים את ישראל כלכך. משהו צריך להתשנות אני נשבע לך
קודם הם זיינו את המרכבה
ואז זיינו את הנמר
וזיינו את השולף כלכך שאני לא יודע אם אפשר לקרוא לזה שולף עדיין
אז אני לא יודע מה יקרה לספיידר אם יוסיפו אותו

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