Do you know what’s worse than weeb slop ?
Weeb slop mixed with AI slop.
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I’m not going to criticize the anime aspect, because I understand that some people are fans of it. I’m not one of them, although I have watched a few anime series over the years. As for AI, I can understand its use in certain situations as well.
What I find unacceptable, however, is charging that kind of money for what is essentially the same tank with an AI-generated camouflage, while not even noticing or removing the AI watermark.
Asking that much for a copy-paste vehicle with AI-made artwork and leaving the logo visible is something I simply can’t accept.
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You’re right. It’s the combination of factors. They didn’t even bother to edit it properly by having a human artist put the finishing touches.
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Your whole point was that any single company simply has only profitable products.
I’ve literally shown you how companies can afford to keep their unprofitable products running.
Or Naval is simply not making enough money to justify more updates, taking the update spots from vehicles that make them a living ?
Sounds awfully a lot like a struggling product kept afloat by other, more profitable things.
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No that was not my point. My point was that companies dont keep unprofitable products running for years without reason. ( 8 years for naval btw)
Everyone knows how companies do that but youve completely failed at showing your initial claim that naval was unprofitable since you dont actually have any data. Just as youve failed at proving your claim that the Senrai stuff is not making enough money for the effort put in.
A. Naval is getting updates in the form of new vehicles. Its just less than for the other modes probably because the profitability doesnt warrant more input. B. Just because its less profitable doesnt mean that its unprofitable or co financed by the other modes.
Or sounds awfully lot like a dude being even more clueless about the stuff hes talking about and just grasping at straws for an objective reason to justify his dislike against naval and anime skins.
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Who said that immediate/fast profit from one certain product is the only reason said product exist ?
Senrais definitely get less profit per unit of work invested than regular premiums, which is why I was interested about them in the first place.
Gaijin simply don’t want to increase the production of Naval vehicles as that would take space from their cash cows. Living by swapping profitable products with unprofitable ones en masse isn’t possible.
The type of a guy that would say having a 1€ profit per month is still something.
Naval takes up like 1-2% of all players this game has, so it’s sales should float around the same numbers or even lower, considering usage of premium vehicles (relative to TT ones) in Naval is less than it is in Air and Ground.
Gaijin has reasons to keep Naval around even with non-existent profit margins as things like market share and vanity play a role in it as well.
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No one?
Complete and utter conjecture without any proof or idea whatsoever
Did anyone say anything differently?
Which, again, neither means that its unprofitable or that its a bad investment.
Which is another reason that comes on top of the completely baseless claim that naval leeches of other modes.
Given how ridiculously common the premiums (Like Gneisenau and Sevastopol) are in Naval, it makes a pretty penny.
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So it’s clearly lucrative enough to keep developing naval despite the memes of ‘dead mode’.
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It doesnt even need to make a pretty penny, it just needs to make enough to justify its existence in some form. Apple is not stopping to make ipads and put the people from there to iphone production just because its less profitable overall and margin wise than that. But the intricacies of modern businesses and product profitability are more complex than “me not like boats, me not like anime”
Correct.
Despite the vocal ones who dislike the anime tanks/aircraft/dakis, it’s obvious the content is more than profitable enough to justify continuing the trend of new anime things being added in game.
It’s a really weird line to draw given it’s technically modern Pin-Up models
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First batch of Senrais are out for a while now and they aren’t that played.
Obviously, profit margins might not be the only reason behind their existence.
It’s definitely a bad investment from a strict, direct profit point of view.
Vanity and market share might be the benefit though.
That said, Gaijin is definitely in a position to push such a thing, as WT Naval is far from their only profit stream.
Gaijin can definitely forfeit some of the Air and Ground profits to keep adding Naval stuff in order to say they are a Naval game as well. They can do the same thing to try and lure Naval-only players from other games in hopes they stick around for something else.
Naval as a standalone product definitely leeches off of other, more successful modes.
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This one seems to be an intentional but extremely poorly thought out part of the design. The flag’s design doesn’t look AI generated the way the album covers did (which don’t get me wrong those were still horrifically embarrassing lmao like even more than the crew voices being mixed up) and even has downright legible text, and it the star-shaped part has a clear movement trail next to it.
It’s a shooting star. Or they decided to use the AI watermark as part of a shooting star design and thus thought it was worth keeping (???)
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What are you on about ?
Gneisenau is 14th top most played ship in NAB and 15th in NRB for April.
For Sevastopol it is 50th and 119th respectively.
In NAB, there are only two premium ships in the top 30 most played for April.
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Played doesn’t mean owned.
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Specifically; the data doesn’t tell us how many people actually own it. Just how many times it’s been used.
So you’re surviving in 2026 from purchases made in 2020 ?
That’s smart.
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What?
They’re much more recent than that.
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What sort of analogy is that?
Read above.
They’re barely even played, especially Sevastopol.
Don’t tell me people buy 80 euro premiums and then proceed to not play them at all.
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Theyre out since October, the og ones over 2 years. And also the overall playrates tell you nothing about profitability just about total profit.
Again pure conjecture based on nothing but a bad understanding of how profitability works.
Just because naval is less profitable doesnt mean that its unprofitable and more importantly it doesnt mean that taking the resources from naval away would make the other modes more profitable. Grabbing the small playerbase of naval players and keeping them there might very well be more profitable overall than losing these players and putting more resources in the already saturated and profitable ground/air market. (see apple example above)
‘14th’ is ‘barely played’. Sure.
People buy a lot more expensive things and never use 'em. There’s also the fact this probably doesn’t take into account custom battles.
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Ultimately, we can only guess how many premiums have been sold since I doubt Gaijin would ever give hard numbers.