Agreed, I just prefer to see the XM246 at the 9.0-9.7 range or not at all this update. As I linked in my first comment, there are multiple other vehicles that would fill a spot immediately following the M163 that Gaijin could’ve used instead.
And of course, I do not deny that other nations are in need of rank VI AA far more than America at the moment; I’m just arguing in favor of the XM246 as Gaijin decided that it was a necessary use of resources for this update.
Let’s hope they don’t get added. We don’t need another 9.0 spaa we need a 8.3 one lol.
There was a 2.3 Br gap where the M163 became useless the 8.3 was need for the US. Not saying other country’s shouldn’t have gotten more but they did good by adding one.
Subjective opinions I suppose, but when you have gaps of much greater magnitude in nations like Japan and France, and a complete lack of a top tier AA in Israel, the priorities of such a gap of 2.3 are somewhat difficult to justify.
Although again, I’m just trying to make the best out of what Gaijin is adding, whether or not proper implementation would fit the gap Gaijin says it does is hardly my fault.
M247 also is 14.5mm resistance
I’m just happy they added something.
Oh Mauser Brrrrt would also have been nice.
It does look really awesome!
Yes it does but not like the XM246, the XM247 also had partly 14.5 AP protection but it was too heavy, so they reduced it so the rear and side armor on the M247 to something less. It seems it only has 14.5 protection out to ~25-30 degrees from the front.
Correcting the XM246.
I have made a lot of issue reports to get i closer to the reported real-life capabilities if you are interested in close to real-life implementation, please share your “concern”.
Accepted but not yet implemented:
[DEV] XM246 historically wrong armor. // Gaijin.net // Issues
[DEV] XM246 Missing proper delayed fuze HEI round (SAPHEI) // Gaijin.net // Issues
[DEV] XM246 Historically wrong radar // Gaijin.net // Issues
[DEV] XM246 Missing optical search magnification (WFOV) // Gaijin.net // Issues
[DEV] XM246 Missing historical feature APDS-T // Gaijin.net // Issues
[DEV] XM246 casing ejection missing // Gaijin.net // Issues
[DEV] XM246 missing left side smoke launcher // Gaijin.net // Issues
Rejected:
[DEV] XM246 Missing Optical Tracking // Gaijin.net // Issues
[DEV] XM246 additional optical tracking source // Gaijin.net // Issues
Comment: I tried my best to get the historical optical tracking but Gaijin wanted the word “automatic” to be used in the description otherwise they rejected it, despite the DIVAD requirement for a backup system with the same accuracy and multiple descriptions of a continuous tracking system with laser rangefinder and full descriptions of how that system works in the M247 it was not enough, unfortunately for us the word “automatic” in connection to the DIVADs appears to only be used when the system did the whole engagement cycle, except pulling the trigger.
[DEV] XM246 Crew location wrong // Gaijin.net // Issues
Comment: Apparently Gaijin thinks crew hatches and periscopes are just for show and not for the crew, they need a primary source to move the FCS forward and release the crew from their SPAA dungeon.
[DEV] XM246 missing historical feature HE-VT // Gaijin.net // Issues
Comment: I was not surprised that they chose not to give it HE-VT, is what it is, can still happen in the future.
Fixed:
[DEV] XM246 wrong barrel model. // Gaijin.net // Issues
[DEV] XM246 Historically wrong ammunition layout // Gaijin.net // Issues
These are the same guys who rejected my report on the ADATS missing a stabilizer because it doesn’t fit their agenda, despite my report having army documents says the LOS-F-H had a requirement for shoot in the move - either way doesn’t make sense that M247 and now the XM246 have a stabilizer, but the vehicle from the program that effectively replaced them somehow doesn’t…
Good job and good luck dealing with them in your future endeavors.
The HE-VT situation is genuinely a good thing (atm) until more SPAA vehicles are added to that BR bracket to take its place it shouldn’t receive that ammunition option… Yet. Eventually I’d like to see it folder’d with the York at the same BR featuring the proximity ammunition and at least 2 other spaag’s with similar performance as it is at 8.3 for example.
As of the Dev server shutdown, xm246 still has not received APDS
If they gave it programmable timed fuze, it would at least not be an inferior geapord
It isn’t?
More armour and closer guns.
That’s a better Gepard lol
armor that’s 50cal proof at the cost of mobility?
You are right about closer guns, I forgot about that. However I do wonder if dispersion is good on these systems rather than having a laser beam
Never had it to begin with. It’s an m48 chassis.
Its armour is a benefit.
Plus, no spaa can outrun a tank or CAS.
If u have the gepard ull know he pain of trying to intercept an incoming munition and failing.
Or how jets can squeeze between ur rounds.
I think we can agree that XM246 will be better than Gepard against air targets due to barrel spacing and superior armor (to resist strafing and bomb fragments)
However, the mobility is not good, much worse than Gepard. Take this horsepower to ton ratio comparison for instance:
Panther G - 13.4
XM246 - 13.8
M60A1 (AOS) - 15.6
Gepard - 18
T-55A - 16.1
ZA-35 - 17.7
Leopard 1 - 20.8
PGZ09 - 21.1
Type 87 - 22.9
And max speeds is also very different, XM246’s 48 km/h is much worse than Gepard’s 65 km/h. You can’t look past mobility, it is vital for evading air attacks and flanking ground vehicles (since you can’t take out tanks from the front)
Also, while the APDS report is accepted, it might not make it to live anytime soon (or at all) due to issues with sources about internal ammunition model. In that case XM246 will have worse mobility and lack effective ammunition against ground targets.
in comparison to a leopard chassis. In 8.3 where heat slingers and atgms are common place, armor is less important.
It’s not meant to. The reason why I said mobility is important is because getting into good positions quick helps with ambushes
point taken
