Meet Nuclear Escalation: Vietnam!

This is said with every single time this is run but it seems to fall on deaf ears.

Tone down the AA.

They still don’t actually use their radars given that they have no issue firing through the terrain or even at what is meant to be a “stealth” plane.

The worst of them though are the SPAA Shilkas, M163, and M42 which intercept every single munition fired on them without issue and are almost untouchable with their 3km (sometimes 4km actually) death bubble around them.

With the next time you run this test and hopefully before you make it permanent can you atleast try to make the AA somewhat more balanced?

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what type of gun based spaa are you all whining about? stationary or mobile ones? cause dumb rockets of all calibers work wonderfully against stationary spaa.

I played one game with the Hungarian Mig-21bis SAU, Su-22M3. Used both rocket loadouts against stationary spaa without a problem, and bombs against moving convoys.
Got shot down twice by a ZSU. first was my mistake and the second was mid dogfight.

gun based spaa seemed pretty fine to me.

Oh right, one other gripe about the mode;

Remove the team restrictions. Like seriously, some of us would like to play US & UK together.

Im disappointed a bit.
Not only its just meta abuse of f5, m21, m23, I dont care about that and even managed to somehow win against those goobers using ayit.
Biggest issue is anti air. I feel like they are eating 99.1% pure pervitin chocolate bars (with 0.9% chocolate as you can guess). Accuracy is just too absurd. Shilka just casually snipes agm65s, agm62s, agm12s. And on top of that to launch 1 missile you have to go through hundreds of times where missile just locks ground no matter what or loses lock because of all that vegetation. Also despite bright weather, picture in tv sight is dark as night, I sometimes had to go in 3 person or look for markers to find target.
And anti radiation missiles. They are useless because they simply cant lock zsu 23. There is no j band variant available. On bright side they are usable in grb. Welcome addition to ayit and 10.0 Israel lineup in general considering you can grab 2 shreks instead of useless aim9d. Thanks for that.
I would suggest neutering aa precision a bit. And removing ability to shoot down munitions for shilka and m163. And please if possible give j band shrike variant.

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It would be cool to finally add the exocet to the super étendard it could make it incredible

Also I believe that a br and feature rédux is more than overdue for the mirage F1 family they would shine on this game mode with lower tech aircraft but magic two is bringing them too high

A mirage F1c with magic1 and 530f phimat pod and 12 flares instead of chute would be perfect here

Also it is a bit sad that french naval aircraft are never on the NATO side with carrier

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they need to quadruple rewards for killing SAMs

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@Stona_WT, is the mig 25 and j22 going to be removed, 100km mitl agms and squad spaming mig 25s to the point it looks like a regularly arb match, not very fun for anyone but them right now


dawg what. 11.5k vehicle RP for nearly 200k SL???

Who on EARTH is deciding this balancing bro

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The rewards for hitting naval targets need to be increased. Hitting the 3 Frigates and 2 Destroyers gives you less score than hitting a single ground unit.

Seeing as how there’s less naval targets available the rewards for destroying them should be more worthwhile.

Also. How is it vietnam era without toilet bombs?

by far, the worst nuclear escalation…

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yeah it flopped

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So far I’ve had more fun with this new escalation bracket than in any other bracket. I haven’t played US/NATO side yet, but once you learn the habits of the AI SPAA it becomes quite simple to handle.

Who would have guessed removing the middle map death zone of missile SPAA could actually make the game more fun… incredible

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This is my assessment. There’s aspect I still don’t like, but without having missiles constantly forcing you to be on the deck, it actually is fun.

This look nice hoping to see late ww2 soon aswell.

Why is Gaijjin taking so many Ws?

Wish I can use my b52 but it not allowed even the be is at 8.7 when I bring it it crew locks it

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lol lmao even

Only thing that haven’t changed since the second iteration is the rewards themselves. One can simply get double or triple the rewards playing Air RB. If this mode is in fact in final stages and ready to ship with next major update, as they did imply in recent devblog, it needs to change the economy otherwise its popularity won’t last long once it becomes permanent.

As for what could be done, a mechanic where upon a successful landing receiving +%50 more rewards of what you did in that spawn would be a great choice as it would encourage people to not to be suicidal and act more conservative. Also it will give a reason to return back to base insted of full sending into enemy forces.

mig25 and agm in the same sentence