A massive plus 1 from me. This is badly needed not even as a gap filler but also for variety and excellent mutirole performance.
Luv muh phantoms
Massive +1, I was in support of the original suggestion on the old forum, glad its been re-written. America as the creator of the Phantom and user of the most diverse set of variants and modifications should just get more Phantoms throughout the tree
The 1990s manual for the F-4E block 63 states it can carry AIM-9M
If you don’t believe the reddit post (since the manual is not longer available), here’s a previous bug report on the F-4E using the same 1990s manual in which you can see AIM-9L and AIM-9M.
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If we really want to go into more unique territory with this later Echo-Phantom, why not have it be one of the last production F-4Es, thus giving it the single-piece windshield?
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Thanks man! Just saved me a bunch of time, glad to know I wasn’t loosing it haha
Are you sure that’s a “late production” version? Looking at it, it seems to be F-4E 68-0345, placing it as an F-4E-37-MC. That is a really early model, compared to the one I suggested, and if you notice it lacks the “doghouse” antenna on the spine that was fitted ~1977, and also lacks the TISEO.
From the DCS forums,
No F-4’s were actually produced from the factory with the one piece windscreen, as can be seen in the last McD produced F-4E (#5,057 which was a F-4E-67MC). You can see in this picture the standard framed multipiece windscreen. This F-4E went to Korea, btw.
The one piece windscreen was probably a one-off or limited modification done by the Missouri ANG, since they were close to the St. Louis plant where Phantoms were produced.
Here’s another one from arc forums.
It seems, to me, that it was a modernization test only applied to a few jets.
Although, for some reason, F4H-1 145310 had one during restoration work a few years back, although it looks like it was because the people who were restoring it simply couldn’t find an “original” windscreen. arcforums
But the F-4G at the NMUSAF has a one piece windscreen, which is odd.
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It could be that a separate vehicle from F-4E and 12.0 BR (Air AB, Air RB & Air SB) at rank 8.
F-4E/L (Blk 60) fill the gap in the heavy fighter line between F-4E and F-15A
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Super late but even if TISEO is working properly you still won’t be able to BVR with it. Yes TISEO can tell the radar where to look but if the radar can’t differentiate between the ground and the target even if it’s being tracked by TISEO it won’t be able to guide a missle
That’s not how it works. The TISEO is providing the aspect information. from there, it is the flood horn, not the radar, that is providing guidance for the missile. From there it is the missiles own capacity to filter out ground clutter, not the host aircraft.
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I thought the TISEO provided information for the radar to look at? And since the Sparrows are CW guided I don’t think the TISEO could guide it…?
Idk I’m not very well versed in how it works, it just doesn’t seem like it should because the AN/APG-120 is not a PD radar
The first part is correct yes, TISEO slaves radar, but the important part is it slaves the illuminator. And as warthogboy said, once illuminated it’s the missile that’s supposed to filter the returns from that point on
It’s not about the APG120 being non PD, it’s about its digital infrastructure and TISEO that allows it to decently circumvent some of it’s limitations.
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The CW illuminator is a separate emitter mounted coaxially with the radar antenna. Normal operation has the radar will be pointing at the target and so the CW illuminator is as well. However, with a TISEO lock, and the aspect knob in the correct position, the radar antenna will slave to the TISEO and when an AIM-7 is launched, the CW emitter will activate.
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+1 for me. I play this thing so much and love it!
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+1 Phantoms Phorever!
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Hmm ig im late but what is the F-4Es radar lock range?
its so garbage now
In what scenario? Look up or look down?
radar lock range
like in search and lock AIM-7E-2 mode
what is that one range
but i would also like to know that too, this thing lock capability is kinda garbo
In look up scenarios it will easily lock well outside of effective AIM-7E-2 launch range.
In look down, it is partially dependent on your altitude, but can aquire ACM locks at roughly the range where a 7E-2 could potentially catch a cold aspect target. In headons it is kind of a toss up as to whether you will aquire lock in time to launch a missile.