Pronably not 9Ms. But 11.7 seems to be a good metric as that’d the aircraft somewhat equal to Mig-23s
not entirely, the connectors and the seeker coolant are different, the reason the 9L and 9M can be used intercanal is due to the only real difference is the seeker, the connector, coolant, and everything else is the same, think of it this way, the AIM-9B, AIM-9E, and AIM-9J are all fictional on the same rack due to (mainly) a seeker change and fin change, outside of that everything else (besides motor) were the same along with the electrical connection point, similar point with the AIM-9C, AIM-9Ds, AIM-9Gs, AIM-9H (the C used a modified D body with a different seeker)
Now that’s a surprise. I didn’t know that connectors were NOT shared between AIM-9 variants.
yeah, it was a mix of different connectors and the number of pins in said connector, like the early AIM-9s had a USB mini connector port and the 9L-9X has the USB-C connectors (not exactly but a close comparison)
Would be a cool aircraft to see and the BR tech tree counterpart of the F-4S (excluding the J). AIM-9L’s and AIM-7F’s at 12.0 but with a significantly worse radar. We’re yet to see a Phantom in the U.S. tech tree with 9L’s, and this could be it.
F-4J (12.0) → F-4N (12.0 foldered) → F-4S Late (12.3)?
A bit unrelated but the addition of a F-4E Late with AIM-9L’s, AIM-7M’s, and the Pave Spike would also be quite cool.
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it would, on the other hand technically the F-4S is what happens when the F-4Js went through an upgrade program (i can’t remember which one) but yeah, the F-4S as stated in another one of these F-4 suggestions served into the mid 80s so technically the F-4S we have is a mid variant of it but due to the nature of the F-4N being a remanufactured F-4B/F-4C it would most likely be foddered under the C as the tech tree is currently but in all honnesty it would be nice to see a full family of phantoms and if we were to get it this is how i think it would be
with the B at 10.0 with AIM-9Ds and AIM-7Ds or Es bridging the gap between the F-8 and F-4J, then C with the AIM-9Es and 7Ds staying where it is, then the D being the more CAS oriented phantom with the LGBs between or folded with either the C, then having the E with its 9Js and 7E-2s where it is but with a E late foddered with 7Fs/Ms and 9Ls with the F-4G either ending the air force line of phantoms or going in the attacker line of phantoms, then rounding off the navy line with the F-4J with the aim-9Gs and aim-7Fs with the F-4N foddered with that with the 9Ls and 7Fs/Ms then having a F-4S late between the F-4J and F/A-18A due to them quite literally serving off of the same aircraft carrier deck
sadly this is the only photo i could find of a F-4S next to a F/A-18 legacy hornet
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100% but my only tweak is that the current american F-4E should get the AIM-9P…
To me its quite frustrating in some scenarios not being able to get tone on a jet by locking the radar but that might be just me
the only thing giving the AIM-9P would do is give it yet another researchable missile, unless you want the radar slaving back, due to the AIM-9P as well as the Ns being primarily export AIM-9Js, now if we gave it the AIM-9P-4 it would be a all aspect AIM-9J, and then the P-5 would be a all aspect IRCCM AIM-9J
12.0 with a pulse radar?
I’m not quite sure why you’re quoting an old edit I’ve made regarding the the potential BR of the F-4N and F-4S Late. If you look at my edit history, I adjusted what BR I could see the F-4S Late being introduced at from 12.0 to 12.3. I originally wrote 12.0 but meant 12.3 and corrected it as such over 40 minutes ago, 20 minutes before you even responded.
From what I’ve seen as well, the F-4N apparently retained the non-pulse doppler radar of the F-4B, so no, it wouldn’t be a pulse doppler radar (correct me if I’m wrong).
The F-4N would also be unique when compared to both the F-4J and F-4S Late, same ordinances and missiles as the F-4S L but a inferior radar at a lower BR (that being 12.0).
Why do people act so nitpicky sometimes, not that deep
could it potentially have used AIM7M as well being a 80s modification?
Air-to-Air armaments like F-4B (post Project Shoehorn modifications) in early 70’s
Maybe F-4B on 1965 ~ 1966 (basic configuration and pre Project Shoehorn)
Battle rating (Air battle mode) around 11.3 ~ 11.7
Glad to see this post is still active lol
Because it was the first thing I saw when revisiting this thread?
Yep
What are you talking about?
This either just means you were typing for more than 20 minutes straight just to write a single sentence or you clearly saw my edit and when you returned to the topic you decided to use my former message to start a unnecessary argument. Either way, unless you have a different opinion, lets end it here - instead, we should appreciate the F-4 Phantom II.
Wait what? I was just writing an opinion of what I saw, there is no malice.
An argument doesn’t have to hold malice, I’m just stating that your response was unnecessary as I edited the message prior to your reply? I was just under the impression that you responded in the way you did to start an argument for the sake of it.
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Wrong one
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yeah i was going off of the
suggestion so it would be a project shoehorn F-4B