I have never been able to understand what the real armour values for this vehicle are. In some places it is stupidly exagerated saying it can withstand 125mm. Having “protection against soviet 30mm armor-piercing rounds” effectively means it has the same protection as the Marder 1A3…
frontally save against 115 apds-fs and 105mm apds
overall protected against 30mm
thats Protection STANAG values. you can look them up
Okay?
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I think It cannot protect sub-caliber ammunition wich over 30mm+.
they didn’t ask for protection against tank guns.
All aspect 14.5mm, Frontal plate 30mm APDS protection will be convincing prediction.
~10 tons cannot make that much difference at protection.
It have bigger engine, way bigger turret systems and ammo then Marder 1.
There is no free weight to assign to protection.
I dont think thats realistic.
Completely agree, thats what I was about to say. Even if it uses more advanced armour compared to the Marder 1A3, a jump in protection from 30mm to 115 or 105mm is not realistic at all. Specially considering, as you mentioned, the Marder 2 extra weight is most likely not from amour increase but as a result of bigger engine, turret and ammo.
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I’d love to have this tank in the game, thanks for your post.
In my eyes there should be only one version of this tank in the game in the techtree, with the 50mm being a researchable upgrade. It might make the stock grind hard, but as long as the 35mm starts with the APFSDS shells, it should be doable at 10.X or what BR it will ever get.
In my eyes this IFV, with the 50mm gun, will be the pinnacle of cannon-only IFVs like the CV90s, by trading the raw damage advantage of the 2S38 (with its bigger 57mm gun) for rate of fire, which should prove most of the times to be advantageous.
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Suggestion passed to the developers for consideration.
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