wet storage was the answer i think yeah
in any words simple DM53 with Anti ERA should able to pen BVM at point bank range and will be ineffective at past 1KM
but in this game MBT are not supposed to fight in the map it should and basically like a CoD with tanks
so, guess who get the advantage the most from the map like that?
“Russia”
well if Gaijin decide to bring the map suitable for top tier it and more realistic armor it would be no problem.
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Gaijin already made said maps. They’re in game & in rotation as we speak.
They have been for years. All new maps are long-range maps too.
Tell that to the bug moderator that keeps closing every bug report about russian ammo carousels not exploding by stating they have “wet stowage in diesel fuel for the carousel” without ever providing a source
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it doesn’t even make sense in the slightest
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Because they are exploding.
There is no bug related to ammo cook off for Soviet tanks, thus that isn’t a bug.
There is a bug related to the carousel. Penetrators & charges are swapped on the damage model, but zero people have EVER reported that bug.
That’s the ONLY bug with it.
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Jokes aside, can you tell me then your opinion on why on earth Russia has the best win rate and why everyone flocks to play them? Why is bvm then the most played top tier vehicle on thunderskill by far? I too have all the top-tier tanks like you so I just speak from my experience, and they are just too strong against other nations at least from my experience it’s a very easy game when I play my bvm also t72b3 and t80u. The combination of fuel tanks that absorb shells, the autoloader that continues reloading and can’t be damaged, the frontal plate that’s strong and consistent in tanking damage, side armor that just doesn’t register the shells when you shoot on side lots of times, ammo not exploding and going almost as fast as the all nimble tanks in the game while maintaining superior armor and great firepower. How on earth is that game balance when other nations don’t have all that stuff? Not to mention that bvm has 3rd gen thermal that except black night no other top tier tank has as I beleive. Maybe some lighter tanks do…talking about mbts here… I just cant see how can that be fair or interesting when everybody flocks to play Russia at top tier for a long time now.
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You don’t know what Soviet win-rate is.
Italy had the best “Thunderskill Win rate” for June or July, not the Soviets.
If everyone flocked to Soviets their winrates would tank, not be high.
Just like what happened with 9.0 Germany. When all the good players left people stopped claiming German bias even tho 9.0 Germany never changed, just the good players flocked to other vehicles elsewhere.
Sweden has more armor and more pen.
Also Type 10 & TKX have gen 3 thermals.
Type 10 was even the first with gen 3.
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I don’t talk about Thunderskill winrate, cause minor nations tend to be played by good players who are bored with the big 3 like I am. And they aren;t basically noob friendly with how much stuff they are missing… and that’s why it’s the case with Italy probably. It’s a well known thing
You can see on Thunderskill that t80bvm is the most played mbt in the game by far. Also, there are many in game clues that it’s the case since I’m not a firm believer in Thunderskill.
I don’t need full developer stats to have 100% proof when I can see what I see when I play. When you are waiting in a queue in the game you can see that Russia has more than double players waiting for the game in comparison to other nations.
Sometimes America and Germany get close but most of the time it’s uncontested. Also many times in-game it’s everyone against Russia, everybody knows that. Even Russia against Russia and some other nations. There’s so much proof. Also yeah, I forgot about the type 10 and TKX, you are right.
But do they have great armor and ridiculous line up like t80bvm does? I don’t think so. They have poor type 93 and Russians have the all-mighty Pantsir.
Good competitive players go where they know they can get the best performance so they can up their win rate since most of those people are grinding their win rate for fun or whatever.
As in any game when there is something that is the strongest it will be used the most cause it gets the most performance out of the good players.
Some examples like this, I know they are from old games but what the heck ( ump 45 from mw2, and m16a3 from Battlefield 3 etc…)
Or in the case when Leopard 2a6 was added or the first m1 Abrams. They were overpowered. That was ridiculous too. But it didn’t last half as long as this is going.
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it was mid june peaked at 78.5% could be explained by almost no one playing them
but currently china holds the highest win rate
Thunderskill is not a source.
I don’t understand why people like T-80BVM.
T-80BVM has a round worse than M1A1’s, armor almost as good as Strv 122’s, and speed about as fast as a Type 10.
Soviet’s 11.3s are mid. lolpenned by M829A2 & slower, yet people make them work.
Cause the 4 rules of tanking always matter:
Don’t be seen. [Positioning]
Don’t be shot at. [Reverse speed pt1]
Don’t be hit. [Reverse speed pt2]
Don’t be penned. [Armor]
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i think they mean this:
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i think he meant this:
Well honestly that makes the game more boring, going with a tank and having an advantage simply because the developers do it on purpose has no incentive, for example I prefer to play with the tanks being as realistic as possible, and having to be me The one that makes the difference, not the one that does things for me and saves me from being destroyed because I have a certain tank.
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Whats very infuriating is when gaijin doesnt model the Type 10 armour properly leaving blatant dumb armour holes but then pampers all their russian tanks like babies.
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Me that has bounced more rounds in my Type 10 than I’ve ever bounced in T-80BVM.
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The strangest evidence and calculations I’ve ever seen. The calculation does not even take into account the “reflection” module, which is installed on all major modifications of the tanks of the USSR/Russia.
Although I agree that the penetration calculation module, the Dagor Engine, does not work correctly
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reflection module?
ОКР Отражение, add on plate on hull
Additional protection Glacis, upper or lower frontal part of the tank. In Russian: “Отражение” - “Reflection”