BTW, expert crews likely reduce chance of ammo detonation by a lot for all tanks.
Also dude calling me a troll for criticizing Soviet vehicles… lol
Update: Starting to play T-80 again to see how many people aim for ammo.
I say that cause only one person aimed for ammo so far & of course they killed me cause they aimed for my ammo.
Other people aimed for turret, UFP, etc, and I’m showcasing my entire tank to players.
No hill peaking, no meta Gran Turismo 5 racing lines using tanks. Intentionally reckless, always showing the whole tank, always showing side armor of some kind.
But we don’t even know for sure if that round penetrated and is what killed it. We just have a couple photos showing that hit on the front and nothing else to go off of. It could have been hit and killed by arty (as many have this war), by a drone (as many have in this war), or from an ATGM anywhere else. While it is obvious it was hit by an APFSDS round, we don’t know if that is what penetrated and killed the tank or not.
Modern High Hardness Armour = 1.1x
Air = 0.05x
Rubber = 0.20x
We get this for T-72B upper plate
60mm Modern HHRA x1.10
5mm Rubber x0.20
3mm Modern HHRA x 1.10
19mm Air x0.05
3mm Modern HHRA x1.10
5mm Rubber x0.20
60mm Modern HHRA x1.10
10mm Anti Radiation Lining x ???
50mm Modern HHRA x1.10
176mm Modern HHRA x 1.1 = 193.6mm
19mm Air x 0.05 = 0.95mm
10mm Rubber x 0.20 = 2mm
10mm Anti Radiation Lining x ??? = ???
193.6 + 0.95 + 2 + ??? = 196.55mm
Anti Radiation Lining doesnt offer much protection and theres only 10mm of it
YET somehow whilst every NATO tank uses these modifiers… It appears these modifiers simply do not apply for russian tanks
Instead of 196.55-200mm the 215mm thick composite plate is equivalent to 241mm…
That ladies and gentlemen is confirmed Russian Bias
This plate should only offer slightly more than 196.55mm using gaijins modifiers, but instead its 241mm…
Note… its at 0 degrees and im not pointing at Kontakt-5 ERA
According to the T-72B dev blog the KE protection is inbetween 500-500mm
196.5mm at 68 degrees = 525mm LOS
Obviously the anti radiation lining adds some extra protection on top of the 525mm LOS, but its within 500-550mm just like the dev blog says.
Instead in game the base hull is 241mm at 68 degrees equivalent which is 644mm LOS instead of gaijins advertised 500-550mm value
Well yeah, depends on ammo.
Like perforating APFSDS pens more than advertised, so its equivalent armor value is lower.
Which is why both in-game, and the dev blog, cite 500 - 550 equivalent.
That’s the key word, equivalent. Meaning using perforating APFSDS.
However, that does not mean it is that thick.
Just as America’s M1A2 turret is over a meter thick does not mean it has a meter of protection against perforating APFSDS ammunition.
But it does indeed have over a meter of protection against AP. [T32 munition from T29]
Basically gaijin took russian 550mm LOS source but instead of making it LOS along 68 degrees, they made it that you need that much with apfsds at 0 degrees, causing all russian top tier tank armour to overperform severely
They need to fix this as a priority. Top tier would become 70% more playable and people will stop rushing like mad with Russians knowing that most of the time they will one shot kill and western tanks will bounce. It’s just hilarious at this point
Worst part is…
If T-72B’s 574mm LOS of composite offers 644mm LOS of steel, thats composite efficiency of 1.122x
If Leopard 2’s hull composite had 1.122x efficiency, it would offer 841mm KE vs APFSDS…
But it doesnt
B-Tech (1979) = 350mm KE
C-Tech (1987) = 420-450mm KE
Only Russian and I think maybe Chinese tanks get positive KE modifiers to their composite armor. All NATO tanks get negative modifiers, and some NATO vehicles have modifiers that make their composites literally worse than Rubber, such as the Puma IFV, the Late Leo 2 mantlet and inner cheeks, the Merkava’s, etc…
