They can add Python-4 while limiting its certain capabilities, just like they did with R-73 and MICA EM.
But since only Israel using this missile they claim that it’s too op and would cause problems…
of course they can nobody is telling them to make it true to reality no missile in game is true to reality to be honest and this is a fact every missile introduced to the game was introduced in a state that was not even close to what they are.
Watch how they are gonna add Python-4 when other nations get their best IR missiles, and even then it will be still gimped.
And when we ask for Python-5 they will claim it will be too op while MICA-IR or ASRAAM destroys anything on their sights :)
Honestly I lost my all hope for Israel tech tree, as much as I love Merkava,Sabra family and their unique modificated planes it’s hopeless to assume that Gaijin will make this tree competitive.
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Python 5 is coming as a ground launched variant, not as an air-to-air weapon. There is a significant difference there. Much like IRIS-T and AIM-9X.
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i know but what am saying is that the Python-5 got more attention than the Python-4 and its a much newer missile and more insane when we talk about performance, the Python-4 its not even close to what the Python-5 is! range, capabilities, performance its different from each other, how a 4 gen IR missile like the Python-4 that it was developed with the intention of compete with the R-73 its not in game yet? hell even the AAM-3 is contemporaneous with the Python-4 both missiles shares literally the same seeker technology in the IRCCM deparment when i look to the rest of the 4 gen IRs we have i literally see that the Python-4 can be added in the same way as the other ones got added and you know, we know and the devs perfectly knows that the Python-4 its not even close to the 9X, IRIS-T, MICA-IR performance in reality.
Python 5 has received more attention because its coming on the Spyder platform this major update. Its not coming as an Air-to-Air weapon.
Much in the same way IRIS-T and AIM-9X are coming as ground launched weapons, but not Air-to-Air for now.
Something being added in a ground launched capacity does not have any relation or Air-to-Air developments in game in that regard. So the fact Python 5 comes before 4 is not extraordinary, because Python 5 is purely for ground launch purposes for now.
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the Python-5 its coming to a ground lauched platform yes but the thing is why the Python-4 its not coming to an Air to air platform when the missiles are really different in reality? no one is asking for the Python-5 to come for an air platform we asking about Python-4 being added to an air platform which is a different missile a different performance and its more close to what we have in game right now. am being honest with you a lot of people cant understand how this missile is not here yet when there is no excuses.
The python 4 is very good, its got like 1200 deltaV which is nearly the same as the r27er
We simply do not need the python 4 yet
indeed is very good but not from another world, you saw how it performs air launched in a custom mission? i dont think soo… delta V means nothing this missile have an effective range of 5-6km practically the same as the R-27T when its air launched and i know it because i tested the missile in various altitudes and speeds ok, the R-27ER/ET have way more range and effective range mate and again having similar delta V means nothing you need to read the values better and do some tests to give an opinion not just because you saw a paper you can literally translate it to a comment.
analyze this values better and do some serious test and you will see that delta V means nothing.
Oh and how many other IR missiles have that much range?
Lets count,
The r27T which sits on SARH missile pylons
The r27eT which sits on even fewer pylons apart from the su34 most planes that can carry it only get 2
And the python 4 which also carries a dual mode IRCCM and could be carries on any pylon that can carry an aim9
Yeah totally balanced it should be added to the 13.3 barak D and yaknow what since im feeling nice i reckon it could even stay at 13.3 (:
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the R-24T have that effective range too… PL-8B have an effective range of 4-5km specially at 4-5k of altitude heck even the PL-5E-II have 5km of effective range it has a really strong engine and low drag, R-73 have 4km 2 km less than the Python-4 the japanese AAM-3 have a strong engine and good energy retention it also have 4 to 5km of effective range am giving you these ranges with launches being made at 4-5k altitude if we go down the ranges would be less obviously, there is a lot of missiles with similar range than the Python-4 in game not just the Russian ones mate. again do more reasearch and tests.
and if your problem is that it could be added to the 13.3 16D then it doesnt need to be added to that one jet, just for the 13.7 and 14.0 ones the D variant its perfect in that BR it doesnt need any new missile.
Right and how many IR missiles in warthunder that have more than 4km of range also have 50g of overload and a dual mode irccm because I feel you ignored that part
Oh right
none
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Question. Is the Sniper ATP coming this update?
again you didnt read anything of what i said in the first comments and just making up excuses to try to validate your point. you wouldnt be saying this is if you already read the first coment in what i said that seeing all the rest of missile in game i literally see no excuse for the Python-4 to not be added also i said “could be added with just shut off irccm”
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I read all of it but just in case, show me where in your comment you said that the python 4 would be in anyway balanced, all i could read is how its still better than all the missiles you mentioned
read my comments again because you are missing a lot. you just giving opinions with no sources no tests and just with things you heard from illiterate people in the subject. the first non sense you said is “same DELTA V as the R-27ER” for me the discussion with you end there you literally showed me the lack of information and experience you have. have a nice day circleati.
Anything you can share with regard to Aim-120C5s planned performance?
Is it intended to be fake modeled to limit its performance greatly so that it provides only a smaller upgrade or is it going to be fully reportable/buffed up to IRL performance?
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Yes. The F-2A will feature this Sniper targeting pod.
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Reports as always are always welcome for any missies with valid info.
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Okay lets go over it together (:
The only IR missiles with equal or more range than the python 4 are the r24t which doesnt have irccm, the r27t, and the r27et
The pl8B has a range of 4km +/- 0.5 so thats not 5-6
Lets be generous and say the pl5eii is maybe a bit better, thats still less than 5-6
R73 has 4km so thats less than 5-6
The aam3 has 4-5 sure but thats still less than 5-6
And how many of those missiles have a dual mode seeker? Lets count hmmmm, zero
And how many of those missiles have 50g overload? Lets count hmmmm oh also zero
And how many of those missiles have a range equal to or greater than the python 4? Oh wow also zero
So in summary the python 4 would be better than every IR missile in game at everything, so yeah totally balanced
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