Major Update “Leviathans” — DEV Server Changelog (16.06.2025) - dev server is closed

tripod2008 · June 9, 2025, 10:11pm

Is it planned to receive passive A2A search capabilities?

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/pjOSfbSxSyPW

KhorneFlakez1337 · June 9, 2025, 10:14pm

The F-2A is getting it because the only other pod it could carry was a basic FLIR

As to why only the Viper Zero is getting the Sniper pod, that’s just what Gaijin does. They always do stuff like that and refuse to explain their logic behind their decisions.

joshje100 · June 9, 2025, 10:15pm

Why all the exclusivity this update with some armaments? First ATFLIR which is widely used by the US Navy and Marines on their F/A-18C’s being exclusive to the Swiss F/A-18C and now Sniper which can be used by the F-16C, F-15E, A-10C, Harrier GR7 + more. Why not add these to all that could carry them at the same time instead of dripfeeding them months → years down the line?

They would be a very nice addition to these aircraft and give them a bit off a boost now especially in the case of the GR7 and A-10C given what they will be up against in ground battles now.

tripod2008 · June 9, 2025, 10:16pm

That implies it will happen at all, the US F-4E is still waiting of the Pave Spike and / or Pave Tack and Laser guided PGMs.

KhorneFlakez1337 · June 9, 2025, 10:16pm

Screw the targeting pod stuff

Why are some nations not getting medium range SAMs?

Morvran · June 9, 2025, 10:17pm

But the Otomatic and ADATS are too OP and need to be nerfed. Clearly these new SAMs are just barely going to compete with them still

joshje100 · June 9, 2025, 10:18pm

Otomatic supremacy. Why bother with all these missiles when you have gun?

joshje100 · June 9, 2025, 10:20pm

Because they will flaunt themselves as “saving [insert nation here]” whilst adding more premiums.

KhorneFlakez1337 · June 9, 2025, 10:21pm

Some planes think they can outsmart missile

Maybe, sniff maybe…

I’ve yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet

x-GeeNo_MS-x · June 9, 2025, 10:28pm

atleast the OTO is more effective shooting down KH-38s than the new SAMs XD also its not affected by the MAGICAL FORCE SHIELD of the russian helicopters HAHAHA

turismo_sp33d578-psn · June 9, 2025, 10:29pm

there is absolutley no difference between israeli f15I and the american f15 other then the fact that the american one is more unique, i feel like when ever i play israel am just playing usa but with a israeli skin, there is absolutley no uniqueness in weapons,not even avionics ( israel modifies its planes avionics irl all the time).and there is nothing stopping gaijin giving israeli mains the spice 1000 and 2000 , in no way do heavy glide bombs compete with kh38s

turismo_sp33d578-psn · June 9, 2025, 10:34pm

am very sorry to bother you smin but am really curious to know why us israeli mains haven’t received spice bombs yet. your team already has the model of the spice bombs in the files yet you guys opt not to give us them, you give the japanese 2 new missiles, you give the russians fictional kh38MT missiles,but its a problem to once and for all give israeli mains spice bombs???, am curious to know why this decision is made by your team.

naruto24k · June 9, 2025, 11:30pm

they would need to add aim9m-10 , r73m , fix pl8b , if they add the python 4.

x-GeeNo_MS-x · June 10, 2025, 12:18am

Makes sense right guys? HAHAHAHA holy cow bro this is to much am laughing my *ss off seeing this HAHAHA

quartas121 · June 10, 2025, 12:32am

It wins in cool factor

quartas121 · June 10, 2025, 12:34am

Look at number of stinger operators and then number of python 5 operators :P

x-GeeNo_MS-x · June 10, 2025, 1:06am

lmao haha

BACKRAGE44428-live · June 10, 2025, 1:26am

silly question is the R60MK/M being flare hungry accurate

Morvran · June 10, 2025, 2:00am

All missiles are far more flare hungry than they should be. Its a symptom of there being no IR signature modeling in game. Its all done based upon the thrust output of the aircraft and the relative ratio to the flares.

This is has a lot of affects across missiles and their flare resistance (like 9Ls should ignore flares entirely if the target is on reheat, but they are still usually 1 flare defeat even if the target is on reheat)

This can be observed really easily with the harrier. Unlike a lot of aircraft, they have more thrust at lower airspeed. If a Harrier is going at max speed. They can flare a rear-aspect R-60M fired from 3km very easily. Usually just 1 flare. If the Harrier is instead flying at about 420kts (not an unreasonable speed for a harrier in a fight) then an R-60M fired from 3km in rear-aspect will not be flared by 8+ CMs. You need to throttle down and jink to defend.

TLDR… It probably is less flare restistant relative to other all-aspect missiles like the Aim-9L. But all missiles have a lot less flare resistance than they should and its all Gaijins fault how they model IR signatures (or more accurately, how they dont)

这个版本中系强国了吗 · June 10, 2025, 2:09am

I wanna know is Chinese MBTs’ spall liner issue gonna fixed in this major update, I have already wait for 2 years. All of issues accepted but nothing happened, as a Chinese main, new helis and SPAA are good but mean nothing more, everytime I log on devserver and checkout changelog about those MBTs first but huh, disappointed again and again:(