Major Update “Firebirds” — DEV Server Changelog (25.10.2024) - Dev Server is closed

Not on the dev server currently, but considering the ATGM is removed it might be 8.0-8.3?

BTW, where?

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Why should it get APDS? It is an Anti Air vehicle. If it gets APDS, people will use it against tanks, its general effectiveness goes up, thus later on the BR will go up, it becomes less effective at countering CAS, and then people complain about CAS even more.

This is the reason why SPAA isnt effective against CAS. Because its overtiered by stupid AP ammo it should never get in the first place. Sure, some SPAAs like Gepard had historical APDS 40+40 round belts , but it still shouldnt have it. I’d take lower BR (higher AA effectiveness) over APDS (higher anti-tank effectiveness). If i wanted good anti tank effectiveness i’d bring a tank that has more than 80mm penetration (any normal tank above 3.7).

I don’t know if this is the right place for feedback, but I really think the devs should reconsider and give the F-15E the better engines. As it’s now it’s just a side or downgrade over the F-16C for ground RB and not even worth playing in air RB. It’s just a air sim plane that is only added to add some (near useless outside sim) gimmick weapon.

I think it would be fine to give the F-15I mavericks to make these 2 aircraft on par again.

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8.7 currently.

Great to finally get bombs for Ki-45. Perhaps we’ll see those 37mm APHE rounds and bombs for Ki-102 soon as well.

One I’ve been waiting for is gun sight change for Chi-To and others with the same gun. Can’t ever know how long something will take.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/TkrAKWQNKqti

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I’m really disappointed at the addition of the Leopards in the French TT. They feel like a lazy addition for a non-existent problem. The French Top Tier lineup consists of nothing but MBTs. It is the support machines that France is lacking since forever. What about the VBL? Or later AMX-10 Variants?

Also, if the French MBT is considered weak, adding an already overly represented machine to the French Tree instead of trying to find other ways to address the issues the players stated is like adding some knorr stock pot sauce to a waygu steak - it is a decision that is out of touch with the issues and the nation at hand.

The overly used joke of calling WT “Leopard 2 simulator” is fitting here - especially since it is 3 Leopards at once. And not only do they look very much identical to the German ones, they also are of the same flavor as the German ones (obviously) or the swedish ones, or the Italian one…

As it stands, France has one of the greatest military industrial complexes in Europe, rivalling the German one. But so far we have not seen anything similar in representation, even though there’s massive potential there. The VBCI could easily been added as a TT machine - especially since it already is ingame!! The VBL amx 10P Milan, etc. are also candidates and scouting makes those machines capable beyond their BR.

However, adding the “standard” issue fix of F-16s and Leopards to the French TT is a clear communication of being out of touch with the French Community in WT and a statement that there’s no focus on the originality of the TT that is its driving factor. France was different and now it is “standardized”.

If I had to make a clear decision, I go as far as revoke the Leopards from the tech tree. I do not want them to be part of the French TT.

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Yeah, they added bombs to the Ki-45s but not the Ki-102…

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Oh okay, ik it has no missile and thermals compared to the normal BMP-2, but anything else?

is dev server open yet? if so when will it?

Just some QOL stuff, also the storage boxes I mentioned can technically be used as very weak applique armor I guess.

Yea but if it’s still at 8.7, I don’t really see any reason why anyone would use it over the normal BMP-2

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Another disappointing patch. At least when it comes to vehicles.
Sure there are some nice changes coming to the game.
But over all. Its a meh patch. So far.

I know there might be some more vehicles that aren’t finished yet. But still.

Last patch Sweden got a GE vehicle. This patch a SQ vehicle.
Same for other minor nations. Nothing special for them either.

At least add in some of the Danish/Finnish/Norwegian air/ground.

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The position of the binocular camera has been reworked. The camera has been moved to the center of the ship along its length and width. The height of the binoculars now depends on the maximum height of the vehicle: the higher the superstructure and masts, the higher the location of the camera.

Please please please please please do not do this. Do not change this. No one who plays naval was asking for this. We LIKE being able to be placed at the BRIDGE of the ship with the camera, in a position where we actually see from where the captain would be. We LIKE being placed in a way that gives us a solid idea of how our ship is actually maneuvering and turning. Placing it in the middle does nothing but harm the ability to see the sway and turn of the ship’s bow and eliminates a nice, enjoyable feature from the game. Why on earth would you think this is a good idea?

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“Hey! New feature ! RwR can now identify individual sources!”
A while passes
“Yeah we are taking that away or making it really confusing”

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Issues with the modeling of it’s stealth properties aside, the F-117 visual model is stunning

Here’s a neat detail, these two vents are open during takeoff to increase airflow to the engines. This was necessary due to the stealth mesh over the intakes, which are very restrictive.

vent open

They close shortly after takeoff to reduce radar signature

closed

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The J10A has not received the latest airflow effects,gaijin have u forget that?

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And how about they fix the Magic 2 so its 50G.

Additionally, addressing the brimstone debacle: How can it a weapon with Fire and Forget modes be tolerated ingame at all if the logical step from a self homing targeting capability is a manual laser guidance?

The proper compensation for the British in this case with a celebrated machine like the Tornado GR.4 is to provide a fire and forget capability, is it not?

It is not graspable however why such a capable weapon can be reduced so extremely in capability, when long range GPS guided glide bombs are now tolerated, fire and forget missiles exist, air to ground radar has become a usable thing and now stealth has arrived.

There is just no argument under which a system like this can be limited to (theoretically) one missile at a time or to the extreme risk of the pilot having to keep eyes on target during the entire duration of the attack. And it should also be noted that this communicates once again an “anti british bias” to a lot of people, as it is a british machine who gets such a gravitational nerf on its real capabiliy while other advanced systems are present in the game and only get compromised to a less radical level.

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Sadly, Japan already got most his tanks, most his planes (maybe the F-2, but i feel like it is reserved for higher BR coming in next year).

And currently have best Ships at top tier, so kind of hard to continue adding more for now.