Major Update “Firebirds” — DEV Server Changelog (25.10.2024) - Dev Server is closed

The 2A7V is still a monster, it’s far better than anything that isn’t another 2A7 or Strv 122.

The 2A7HU is at best a sidegrade over the 2A7V lol. It has a 12.7 while also being heavier and thus less mobile.

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Thank you for the help!

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fair, however I think there is a very good chance it will be coming this update, seeing as attackers are the main theme of this update.

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@Stona_WT, will those improved test flight locations also be activated for all aircraft, instead of just the newly added ones?

At that time, not many vehicles had high penetration ammunition, and the 122 had almost invincible protection. Even now, the DM53 does not have much advantage when many vehicles have 600mm-level ammunition, because the protection is also improving, and the DM53 must be accurately aimed to effectively penetrate most top-level vehicles, especially Russian T-series tanks. In addition, due to recent updates, most top-level vehicles have the fastest reload speed of 5S, and the problem of the Leopard 2 series tanks is even greater. If Germany is very poor in helicopters, jets, anti-aircraft vehicles, and light tanks, the Leopard 2A7 should have a much stronger strength than it is now.

Anything in the BeNeLux subtree? Figure someone has an F/A-18 in there surely (I don’t actually know myself).

If Germany’s light tanks, anti-aircraft vehicles, helicopters, and jets were as strong as those of other countries, no one would complain about the A7V, but the fact is that the only vehicle Germany can offer is this one, which looks strong but is completely inadequate.

When will it receive its 6s reload?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/s8DpU9KLyHlS
7.5s is brutally long and it gets out-reloaded by everything. 8rpm is extremely hard to deal with compared to its historically usable 10rpm.

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You mean 6.7-7.7 which is full of Hyperspace Warriors, Germany is being bombed and there is nothing it can do.

The Leo 2A7V is one of the best tanks in the game, it doesn’t need any buffs. It’s better than anything most nations have to offer, while also having a decent lineup to back it up.

Outside of top tier, Germany has decent jets, great SPAA, and a few good light tanks.

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Do you mean the worst top-tier anti-aircraft wheeled Roland?

I was talking about air, but the same kinda applies to ground too. Germany doesn’t have many 7.0-7.7 tanks and it suffers because of it.

I feel like you are the only person actually complaining about 2A7V. Everyone else that Ive talked with said its busted.

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All German light tanks have extremely high BR

Germany has the best or second best rank I-V SPAA line, and the gepard is one of the best early radar SPAAs.

That doesn’t mean they are bad (though the Pumas could be better).

Remember Israel is still using the imp.chaparral. What I would do for a Roland equivalent in our tree.

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Yes, the A7V is still a T0 vehicle, but it is not the best. The 122b+ is much more powerful than the A7V (the sides are immune to 30mm cannons, and the A7V has no clothes). The .50 of the A7HU (actually Germany can choose it, but there are too many prejudices in the Gaijin and they don’t allow German vehicles to have any kits)

Roland is still the 4th best SPAA in game and thats considering ITO’s as two separate vehicles.

In fact Sweden has a better GEPARD on Leopard 2 chassis, Type 87 is also better, China’s PGZ09 is also better, Gepard is actually one of the worst 35mm anti-aircraft guns

No, the next thing would be an F-35A, but that’s where BeNeLux ends for now. The only other 10.0+ possible addition is the Mirage 5BA MIRSIP I think.