Anyhow after the ram and maybe the mosquitos + any low tier naval thingy I’m probably gonna sit this update out. Just wish there were more unique low tier stuff.
At least I can fully enjoy a different game
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Not TT material? The primary WW2 self-propelled artillery pieces? With the majority having some sort of AT shell for them.
If anything, they’re the best TT material ones out of all artillery pieces.
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Gaijin tends to focus on flavor of the update esq nations, the 2S1 couldve gone to 4 nations which could have used it with one lacking a proper 6.x lineup but gaijin only gave it to 2. Its fully up to gaijin if they wanna add it to all nations or just a few.
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Pretty much. Even Gaijin seems to have restraint when it comes to copy and paste.
Id rather see gaijin add C&P to areas where unique subtree or main tree additions cant fill. Ill use Sweden for example. Instead of copy pasting the Cromwell to Finland, add the Cromwell with the 20 pndr they installed. Or instead of adding the T34-85 add the T34-75 with the pak 40 gun instead. They may not be as effective as standard C&P but they help make trees far more diverse. Then when unique stuff can’t fill should be when we get C&P especially if its a vital gap like SPAA or something. At least my take anyways.
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Yeah, for sure. Their current C+P scheme is to try band-aid fix issues in trees with good vehicles from others. For example, the British SPAA situation was notorious with the Stormer HVM, always changing, Gaijin trying to make it work for years - so then they just added pasted in the Strela. Though, to their credit, I guess they did add the Rapier, which you couldn’t use over the copy-pasted in vehicles. I like the idea of trying to make trees more diverse, because you get to some BRs and it’s just same-same.
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Theres 2 way you get diverse, different lineups with shared tanks. And different lineups with diverse and unique shared tanks, in this regard ill use Finland again. 5.3 has the Cromwell and the PT-76, you can also go to 5.7 and have the T34-85. So two tanks which nearly match the Soviet 5.7, but both nations also have their own exclusive vehicles to pad out there BR. That is one way gaijin focuses with C&P, imo id rather see unique modifications over exact same vehicles. For reference the T34-76 on Germany was used by Finland, but there were 2 models
Here we have a uniquely German modified version of the T34-76’s with the German cupola, in game id rather see Finland get that over the same one Germany has even though they both had it. Yes the German cupola makes it a weakspot and technically worse but it helps to diversify the C&P, idk maybe this was a bad example
The Rapier really should go down to 9.3 so it can be used in the 9.3 lineup lol
Right now it sits at 9.7 and NEVER sees use. Because the infinitely superior Stormer AD sits just 0.3 BR above it.
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Rapier and LVBRVR are both terrible SPAA which could fit into their nations much better 9.3 lineup, though LVBRVR should go to 9.0 imo, its a worse Rapier in almost every regard. Only 30g more explosive mass on the missile lol.
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They added the OSA-AK first (2.41 vs 2.43 for the Strela), which is IMO a useful addition outside of the Stormer’s capabilities, in that it’s a solid option against standoff aircraft and strike drones, something which the Stormer struggles with even outside it’s implementation in game.
They also added the domestic Stormer AD in 2.39, which imo is the best SPAA in the 10.0-10.3 range for the British, when the Stingers lock that is.
The Rapier was always going to be kinda mid, just as a function of how it works, like the HVM.
(FYI the updates are always odd numbers, so we had the Stormer AD, then the next patch the OSA-AK, then the Strela the next)
That would be cool to see, even with weakspot. A point of difference.
Oh, yeah, i forgot there was even a British 9.7 lineup, lol. I guess they did put Rapier away from the others. Agree on it going down to 9.3. Though, I’m not going to act like some expert on it, since I unlocked it and haven’t bothered using it. Just playing around with it in test drive was enough for me to dislike it, lol.
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ah I fogot the real china is meant Taiwan.
Yet another derp gun with 150+ mm (I know its 203 BTW) HE that can just negate all the armor I have on my heavy tank. Arty vehicles are seriously getting out of hand how many of them there is and they are in pretty much every tree. Playing anything with armor is less and less viable with each update with all there additions that can just overpressure you without actually having to penetrate armor.
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heavy tank means trading mobility for armor (or firepower), not being invincible. Direct firing arty pieces are a perfect counter to armor, and literally the first anti-tank guns in history.
as they should be, they trade armor for more firepower, it’s okay, a su100 will oneshot you the same.
you play armor wrong, it’s a back-up, not the main feature of the tank (except for jumbo type vehicles).
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Yes - at a time when field artillery had still been used for direct fire only a year or 3 before…
Vehicle mounted direct fire artillery became assault guns and tank destroyers - self-propelled artillery was still optimised for indirect fire roles and direct fire only in emergencies or other very rare situations.
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The next BR will be destroyed like the M44.
Its time to play another game
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Shurely, that thing ist much more faster then the older one.
It also destroys immersion…the game
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This forum is a joke… the moment you don’t agree with the developers or the moderators with anything they just straight deleting your post and silence you… GG Gaijin team… talk about what? Only the things they allow you to talk about and praise them than you are a good community folk… I posted a complaint about mixing an obvious coldwar vehicle with WWII stuff and I got instant silenced and moderated. I will screenshot the post and the moment you guys delete it I will repost on STEAM and other media just to show how rotten this system is.
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Yes, I know “reload times can be adjusted for balance reasons”, but this is actually ridiculous.
This thing fires much larger and heavier shells than the FV4005, but somehow has the same reload rate?
Look, I get it, the realistic reload time would be way too long for a game like WT, but either the M55 should get a slightly longer reload time (32-35 seconds when aced) or the FV4005 should get a reload buff
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