The APHE issue is complicated. Everyone knows it’s wrong. A few want it realistic, many want it as is, and gaijin has no desire to spend time working to fix the problem.
I find it curious how the devs make this garbage, giving a bullet a historical advantage (explosive does a bit more spalling), exaggerating it in a surreal way (instead of a larger damage cone, a sphere of death, omitting kinetic energy), and then, after exaggerating the advantages of something, they omit the disadvantages (APHEs tended to detonate prematurely).
Yes. We are getting neglected as hard as they can.
No, they will still gonna neglect us no matter whether we get a copy-paste vehicle or not.
Look at our bluewater fleet, which even failed to grab and got our Revenge class stolen.
Look at our South African sub-tree, which we only have one SAAF plane in the whole tech-tree
Look at our indian sub-tree, which has no indian plane as tech-tree version and only got two copied SPAA as tech-tree thing.
Look at our new SPAA Tracked Rapier, which is useless, while others get a new top-of-the-line SPAA.
I think you are wrong.
We can’t get any vehicles not because copy-pasted vehicles replaced that role
We can’t get any vehicles because Gaijin hates us so much.
I think we will NEVER going to get our domestic armoured car which you want instead of M24.
Yes. Copy-paste might be bad, but double-standarding about copy-paste is even worse than that.
We were one of the biggest users of M24 Chaffee and some other American-built vehicles, but Gaijin is unwilling to give either ‘copy-pasted vehicles’ or ‘non-copied domestic counterparts’.
We have no other option than
‘Get a copy-pasted vehicle which we were actively using’
or
'Starve till death with no vehicles in the new update. ’
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Agree to disagree. I’m not opposed to M24 for Britain in a vacuum, I would just hope it doesn’t put off domestic items.
I doubt it would since it seems like a simple addition. Either way there is no real british built tank that would fill the same role as the chaffee around the 3.7 BR.
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Oh we could have the AEC! No wait, that’s an event vehicle already…
Okay, we can get the boarhound! Oh no, that one too…
Right, then at least we can get the Coventry Mk II! I hope
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Well it’s a one off prototype so if it’s added 100% will be an event.
Staghound mk3 would be peak
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Yeah… I apologise.
Maybe I was being too hysterical and acted too nitty, because of those guys who want [we shouldn’t get our American stuff stolen, no matter the cost!]
:|
I also don’t object to adding domestic cars. XD
Just my expectation on Gaijin reached below the surface long ago. :(
In a pararel world where Gaijin loved the British so much…
If we can utilise all these domestic armoured cars and Chaffee at the same time with Cromwell
Save my seat next to you, bud. XD
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I’d like to point out that an AC and a tracked light are two different niches.
And M24 doesn’t replace the armoured cars because they fill two different roles.
They may serve very different roles in reality, but in game are practically the same, with the only difference is one is faster on roads and one is better in harsh terrain. Gaijin even classifies armored cars as “Light tank” which is silly, but accurate to how they play in game.
Its funny, as literally 3 nations have sherman v (M4a4) and they were all sourced from brit stocks irl XD
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What could the british have recieved, as stuff like the sexton and the priest are not even in the same ball park as the m44. The chaffee doesnt really have a british equivient, we simply didnt operate a 75mm aphe slinging light tank.
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Light tanks are a different beast from armoured cars, one i can hit spacebar to delete that is faster on roads, the other is a bit slower but wont be strafed out or machinegunned by anyone who glances at you. at least when it comes to ww2 examples
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The Canadair Sabre Mk 4 the Italian’s have was RAF aircraft, yet the UK is missing one.
Unfortunately War Thunder seems to have a thing for giving other nations their vehicles the got from that British but not the British themselves (as long as it isn’t pure domestic)
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Its a shame, like if they wanted to do copy paste there are some vehicles, eg the sherman v, iii and the chaffee i that would be accepted and heavily used, but instead we get another indian thing, like the marut which is currently on the market for 11 bucks as no one wants it XD or those russian copy paste aa that i don’t think i have ever seen in game
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Indeed instead of adding C&P that would have been useful they added unwanted ones and disliked sub-trees.
This thing got dragged through the mud. Not only should it have been TT do it it’s history among other things it got way over tired.
Not only where they already SPAA were they were added, it’s after the point that only the most dedicated still play. And it doesn’t tank long to find out their opinions of the Indian stuff.
Aye the indian aa were just there, and as they are top tier you have to go out of your way to get them if you want, i have all the challies im not playing them to unlock mid aa XD
The marut was going to be 9.0 regardless its effectivly a hunter 1 with a lot of ground pounding, the issue is as you say it should have been tree, even though the model for it was done in 2021 so its just another of novrs models manifesting years later.
Is there a rule stating every nation must be one to one comparable to all others? I don’t see how everything being homogenized is good, instead of trees having more national character/identity/asymmetry.
There are numerous armored cars that are just as well protected, if not more protected than their nearest light tank counterpart. The Boarhound, EBR, and Puma are all at least frontally protected from .50 cals and even some light cannon, while light tanks such as the M22 locust, BT series, or IKV 91 are extremely lightly protected and can be frontally killed by even .50 cals. Armored cars faster on roads? Yeah, that’s the one thing that differentiates the two vehicle types in war thunder basically.
I tend to be against copy paste, but would definetely agree with the chaffee being introduced into the British tech tree, as they were commonly used by them, and would help provide a decent light tank for the 3.7 lineup. Also would like to see it named as just ‘Chaffee’, as was the British tradition of naming the American vehicles after there general’s. Like how the M4 is the Sherman, and the M3 is the Grant or Lee and so on
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Thats literally how they have balanced the game, have you not noticed the push for 155mm howitzer tracked vehicles recently? gaijin normally tries to give direct equivalents when possible, as that is what is healthy for brs, and when it comes to light tanks in the 3.0 to 4.0 bracket the chaffee is one if not the best, hence why its been scattered in several nations, except the one that named it the chaffee XD.
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