M1 Abrams being stuck with M735 as its Tier 1 APFSDS until Tier 4:
“We encourage players to buy the premium version, so they can use the M774 right out of the box!”
~Gaijing
Yeah the AIM version is a really good tank when it comes to reload and mobility, i also noticed how when the enemy shoots my turret ring it only kills my gunner and disable my turret ring that’s it, but in any M1A2 it disables my turret ring,kills gunner and loader, engine,gun breach, so i can’t shoot nor move it’s totally absurd how the M1A1s are better than the M1A2s.
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No just move it to rank 8
No.
M1A2 is at rank 8 only because it’s foldered with SEP. It’s one of the rare 11.7 MBTs at rank 8 alongside CR3 for some reason.
M1A2, HC and Click Bait should all move to 12.0 already.
its first dart is still bad (except if you shoot the lower front plate)
True, but the available rounds for the M1 is a whole other can of worms.
At least it has a kinetic round to shoot at stuf, through obstacles that would detonate HEAT-FS.
Gaijin might as well just give it the proxy round stock so we can at least play the Abram’s like an spaa as it was intended (joking) since heat is useless against tanks at that br.
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idk about that, with the current implementations SEPv2 being the same br as 2a7 feels wrong, much less HC which has significantly worse target acquisition capabilities
They are 2A5 equivalents and should be at the same BR.
are they though? they have better firepower but much worse hull down survivablity, and HC doesnt have commander thermals meaning much worse hull down target acquisition
Yeah they are pretty neck and neck.
HC is also better than Ariete, Merks and Challies but sit lower for some reason.
Also the HC’s turret ring is much stronger than the SEP’s, for some reason M1A1s are stronger and tend to withstand more damage.
its literally identical, the only difference I can think of is people being confused and not aiming right if you have the dozer blade on
With the exception of certain tanks
I just checked every rank 8 tank and they all have a stock dart. Even rank 8 squadron tanks.
I was referencing lower tanks having stock darts, my apologies, I should have been more clear about that
Nope, there was a video on reddit showing the difference, a single shot from Bradley disabled the turret ring instantly on the SEP but on the M1A1 it turned it yellow.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1e5wr2f/why_did_the_first_m1_have_better_turret_ring_than/?rdt=61763
some rank 7s do but thats down to their historical ordinances or whatever the snail decides.
Thanks for understanding, it had sounded to me that you were saying that rank 8 exclusively got stock darts
So I was attempting to clear it up, that ranks below that can have stock darts as well