You have no idea how much your suggestion saved this one lol, at first I didnt even know what the specifics of the upgrade was until you mentioned IMI’s Super Vulcan in your suggestion which led me to the correct rabbit hole.
I have to admit that this is still very scuffed but I just thought the basic idea was pretty simple so I just said fuck it and submitted it. Thank you for your very detailed bug report on the Machbet as well!
No worries!
If I find out more about the Machbet I will update my post and report!
+1, would make for a fantastic 7.3 SPAA just like the american one.
+1 for Japan. 7.3 could work especially it is a BR where we have a few 7.3 vehicles to build a lineup around it.
Would fit nicely for my Type 99 lineup ;)
I might just have stumbled upon something amazing. The sight for this one is probably called Dragon Eye Multisensor Electro-Optic Targetting System:
Brochure: https://elbitsystems.com/media/Dragon-Eye.pdf
If somebody can fact check my assumption because this looks very much like it. Im just surprised its now being marketed for a 12.7mm RCWS instead lol
No. Japan does not need this.
There is a huge gap from 5.3 to 8.3 on Japan’s AA line. This serves to fill that gap.
I don’t think an 8.3 vehicle is the solution.
This isnt supposed to be an 8.3 vehicle though. The base M163 is 7.3, the Machbet is 9.3 because it has Stingers. What I suggested is 7.7 to reflect it being an upgraded M163 but would be fine in 7.3.
8.3 minimum for the upgrade.
Also it’d be pretty insane to consider adding it b4 the M163 PIVADS
You have to be joking to insist it being 8.3, also the PIVADS is just an M163 that has access to AP belts. It would be a pure copy and paste and does not fill any voids in any nation. The entirety of Rank 5 however does not feature a single SPAA, when early jets and helicopters start appearing. God forbid you are in an uptier.
Yes
Gaijin would put it at either 7.7 or 8.0.
Bro can’t seriously be clownmaxxing this hard. Did you even research TVADS or PIVADS?
Good find!
Externally the unit looks the same, but there are several differences in the specs.
The one on the Vulcan is bigger and consumes more power. The thermal sensor is also better, with higher resolution.
In my opinion it is possible that there is a more advanced version of the Dragon Eye, which is better for guns of a higher calibre (like the 20mm Vulcan).
If I remember correctly Elbit does make simpler and superior versions of the same product to give more choice to their customers.
Yep, I think you got it. I was a bit surprised at the 1 km recognition performance on the Thermal Channel and 2km max for the LRF when the Machbet can detect up to 6km, so its definitely has to be a more powerful variant of the Dragon Eye (probably because the M163 could carry a bigger battery pack to power said electro-optics).
The Machbet needs longer detection and recognition ranges because it primarily uses Stingers, which have a much bigger reach than the Vulcan cannon.
For the IMI Super Vulcan those distances are a bit short but somewhat acceptable, unless they use APDS.
Upgrade of what? Tracking radar has only been replaced with a passive tracker. 7.7 is completely fair for such a small upgrade.
Hmmm if you wanting the PIVADS why don’t you go and support the PIVADS suggestiong ?
Why are you trying to prevent other nations from getting something just because it is not a vehicle you wanted for your tech tree? Bizarre .
Copy paste is bad, wether PIVADs is in Warthunder or not.