M113A1 ACAV (USA) (suggestion draft)

Would you like the M113A1 ACAV?
  • Yes
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If you voted no, please feel free to say why in the comments, thank you.

Sources

TM 9-2300-257-10
APC M113
M-113 - K Troop - 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment - Hosted By Bob Hersey
M113 Armored Personal Carrier (1954)


VERSION 2

The M113A1 ACAV



History

During the Vietnam War, the M113 was used extensively by both the United States and the ARVN. The development of the M113 armored personnel carrier (APC) began in the mid-1950s to address a critical tactical dilemma for the U.S. Army: how to safely transport mechanized infantry squads across highly dangerous, fluid battlefields while keeping pace with the rapid development of main battle tanks. Prior American attempts at armored transports, specifically the steel-hulled M75 and M59, were burdened by crippling drawbacks. They were excessively heavy, complex to maintain, expensive to mass-produce, and severely lacked the native amphibious capabilities needed to cross water barriers without preparation. Seeking a highly versatile vehicle that could be easily airlifted by cargo aircraft, swim across rivers, and remain logistically straightforward to field, the Army Ordnance Tank-Automotive Command issued a strict directive for an entirely new generation of lightweight battlefield transports.

The development contract was awarded to the Food Machinery and Chemical Corporation (FMC), whose design team pioneered a radical approach to weight reduction. FMC manufactured two competitive prototypes side-by-side: the steel-hulled T117 and the T113, which daringly utilized a hull constructed from high-strength, aircraft-grade 5083 aluminum alloy armor. This unique aluminum composition provided ballistic protection equivalent to traditional steel against small-arms fire and artillery shrapnel, at a fraction of the structural weight. Because of this drastically reduced mass, the T113 boasted vastly superior cross-country mobility, fuel efficiency, and a naturally buoyant chassis that could swim through calm waters using only its tracks for propulsion. It won the design competition outright and was officially standardized as the M113 in 1960.

This initial production variant was defined by its highly recognizable, boxy profile, featuring a large hydraulic rear ramp for rapid squad deployment, a spacious interior configured for an 11-man infantry team, and an open commander’s cupola armed with a single .50 caliber M2 Browning machine gun. Early units were propelled by a 209-horsepower Chrysler 75M V8 gasoline engine. While the vehicle performed exceptionally well logistically, its combat debut—beginning in April 1962, when it was deployed with the Army of the Republic of Vietnam (ARVN)—uncovered a deadly vulnerability. The volatile gasoline fuel lines and tanks posed a severe secondary fire hazard; when hit by a landmine or an enemy rocket, the fuel would instantly ignite, engulfing the crew compartment in a catastrophic fireball. FMC urgently initiated a modernization program in 1963, swapping out the hazardous gasoline powertrain for a 215-horsepower Detroit Diesel 6V53 two-stroke engine. This modification, designated the M113A1, entered mass production in 1964 and became the definitive standard just as U.S. combat troops flooded into Southeast Asia in 1965.

In the dense, trackless jungles and flooded rice paddies of Vietnam, the M113 proved to be an indispensable asset for reconnaissance, “search and destroy” missions, and deep incursions. However, the conflict quickly highlighted the limits of its lightweight design when facing heavy anti-tank mines and Rocket-Propelled Grenades (RPGs). Because the thin aluminum floor and side plates could not withstand shaped-charge weapons or heavy blast mines, troops routinely abandoned the interior, choosing to ride directly on top of the roof. This adaptation enabled maximum situational awareness and immediate escape from an ambush, rather than risking entrapment in a burning vehicle. Field units also aggressively modified their tracks by scrounging armor and weapons. This localized ingenuity directly inspired the official, yet field-retrofitted, M113 Armored Cavalry Assault Vehicle (ACAV) variant, which added circular protective gun shields around the commander’s machine gun and two side-facing M60 machine guns to significantly boost localized firepower.

The lessons of Vietnam and the escalating tensions of the Cold War in Europe forced the M113 platform to undergo a continuous mechanical evolution. In 1979, the U.S. Army introduced the M113A2 upgrade, which focused entirely on improving automotive reliability and cooling. This variant introduced high-strength torsion bars to beef up the suspension, upgraded shock absorbers to handle rough terrain, and a heavily redesigned radiator system to prevent engine overheating in tropical or desert climates. Crucially, the internal fuel tanks were relocated outside the vehicle into armored pods flanking the rear ramp, vastly improving infantry survival rates during a hull penetration.

The vehicle faced its next major hurdle in the 1980s with the arrival of the high-speed M1 Abrams tank and the M2 Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicle. The aging M113A2 simply lacked the horsepower to keep up with the rapid operational tempo of these new frontline armor spearheads. To bridge this critical mobility gap, the military rolled out the comprehensive M113A3 modernization package in 1987 under the RISE (Reliability Improvement for Selected Equipment) program. The A3 model introduced a powerful 275-horsepower turbocharged Detroit Diesel engine mated to an advanced, electronically controlled automatic cross-drive transmission, allowing steering via a steering wheel-style yoke, rather than traditional lateral levers. Furthermore, the interior was lined with Kevlar spall liners to catch metal fragments, and the exterior hull was pre-drilled to rapidly accept modular, bolt-on applique armor plates. These massive performance overhauls enabled the venerable “battle taxi” to remain operationally relevant throughout the Gulf War and the invasion of Iraq.

With over 80,000 units manufactured across dozens of specialized configurations, the M113 has secured a legacy as one of the most successful and mass-produced armored vehicles in military history. Though phased out of frontline infantry assault roles by advanced militaries, its simple, robust aluminum hull has made it an incredibly versatile “battlefield canvas” utilized by over 50 nations globally. In modern operations, the M113 continues to serve diligently in critical, second-line combat support roles—operating as armored combat ambulances, mobile command posts, mortar carriers, and engineering vehicles. Simultaneously, many international armies are currently giving older M113 hulls a second lease on life by retrofitting them with modern unmanned remote weapon stations, heavy auto-cannons, and digital command-and-control networks. This ongoing adaptability ensures that FMC’s lightweight design from the 1950s remains an active, surviving workhorse on the battlefields of the 21st century.


Field mods

During the Vietnam War, the ARVN crews discovered quickly that the commander’s position was extremely dangerous. In response, the crews created makeshift armor from whatever soft metal they could find. Shortly after this, the US Army adopted its own version of the gun shield that offered the commander protection against gunfire from all sides.

The M113 also saw several unauthorized field mods regarding what weapons it mounted; generally, the ACAV mounted a single 12.7mm M2HB on the commander’s cupola and two M60Ds on each side of the rear of the vehicle. The commander did not always use an M2; there is evidence of a few crews mounting an M134 on both the commander’s hatch and the rear gun positions. Unfortunately, these modifications appear to be completely unauthorized, and there is very little information about them. However, I have discovered a single document confirming that it was officially a joint US/AUS project that was canceled due to maintenance conflicts. The M113 was also, in at least one instance, modified to mount the M134 on the rear gun mount positions. The M113 was also capable of mounting the M40 105mm recoilless rifle on the right side of the vehicle.

There are also supposed instances of the M113 being given makeshift slat armor built out of scrap metal and wire fencing; however, there are very few images depicting this in use, and it’s more common for a large roll of some kind of fencing, like wire, rolled up and placed either on the front or rear. However, I am unsure of the purpose of this. When on the front it was generally placed either on top of or behind an extended splash plate,


Info/weaponry

WEAPONS:
(Total ammo counts are unknown)
The M113 was capable of the following known setups:
Commander: M2HB, M134
Rear right: M2HB, M60D, M134, M40 (105mm)
Rear Left: M2HB, M60D, M134


MOBILITY:
Top speed: 45 mph
Engine: 215 hp (160 kW) 6V-53 Detroit Diesel engine
Transmission: Allison TX-100-1 three-speed automatic transmission.
Top Speed in water: aprox 4 mph


Crew: 5 (gunner, gunner, driver, commander, loader/radio operator)


Amount produced: unknown total m113a1 conversions to ACAV
Produced: 1963-1979


Armor:
(Rolled 5083/5086 H32 aircraft-grade aluminum armor)
Front: 38mm
Sides: 44-38mm
Rear: 38mm
Top: 38mm
Bottom: 28mm
Gun shields: 12.7mm Hardened steel


Amphibious: Yes (without the recoilless rifle)
Smoke grenades: No
Night vision: Yes
Thermals: No
ESS: No
Rangefinder: No



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Sources

TM 9-2300-257-10
APC M113
M-113 - K Troop - 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment - Hosted By Bob Hersey
M113 Armored Personal Carrier (1954)
M113 armored personnel carrier - Wikipedia
M113 (Armored Personnel Carrier) - The Army Historical Foundation

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No? Why would we like it? Its 1.0 BR at best and it will ruin the vibes

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Sir it has a 105mm recoiless rifle with 400mm of pen, it is not a 1.0
4.0 minimum at least

it doesnt neither on pic nor on sources as i can see. I found some pics on the net however there arent any here? Its a bit misleading

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You sure? Cause it’s right there.


Same rr that’s on the m50 gets hesh and a Heatfs round

Squadron maybe?

+1 it would be fun to collect atleast

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You should probably clarify this, as most of the images, and the first image you see for this post, is of the one without the recoilless rifle. I’d say just make the entire post purely about the one with the M40, and remove the other pictures of ones with the M2 / M134.

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If people actually read it, it goes over it as just one of several weaponry options, also found those images of it with the rr quite late on in making this

Besides the rr would also make the vehicle too heavy to float, that’s why it’s an optional weaponry option

That’s part of the problem though, is you’re showing / discussing variants that wouldn’t work in-game outside of an infantry mode. Usually the suggestion pages only allow for a specific configuration of a vehicle. See the family section here.

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Actually it does follow all suggestion requirements. It’s a real vehicle that was armed. And yes it can work in the regular game. It simply can mount different setups of weapons. Or would you like me to show my m113 M2HB suggestion as evidence.

You’ll note though that your M113 M2 suggestion is for a specific vehicle configuration. It isn’t for an M113 that could mount these weapons, leaving it up in the air as to what you’re suggesting. An M113 with an M134 and one with an M40 would be at very different battle ratings, which is why I’m saying you should focus on just one per post.

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But this DID mount these weapons, plus the m40 would likely be available stock and optional for the player to choose. It’s up to the player to choose what setup they want to choose, just as the hydra rockets on the LAV-AD are optional and the choice is up to the player. It’s not a what if, it’s about a players choice.

If a player wants to use it as an spaa they can mount 3 mini-guns
If they want to be a tank destroyer they can take the m40
It’s not something difficult to understand if you think about it, much like Vietnam it’s about trade offs, what does this offer over that.

It’s adaptable, and that’s the neat thing about it.

The ACAV was interesting in this regard, it’s not one singular vehicle. It’s an entirely fleet of crew modified vehicles.

Besides can’t make a suggestion for each version as they all used the same designation of ACAV, weaponry doesn’t change its designation in this case. Crews added the m40 to the ACAV, they added miniguns to the ACAV. Making multiple suggestions just would be more confusing and inconvenient for the devs to try to implement.

Though I won’t argue if it’s added to infantry it would be a monster, especially if it was given its anti-personnel round. .

Btw I’m suggesting the M113A1 ACAV

I get what you’re saying, but even if it’s added, where do you place it? There’s no mechanic in-game that accounts for battle rating changes based on weapon configurations (which is already limited for most vehicles to begin with, usually just being smoke). The LAV-AD fits for its battle rating with the Hydras or not, but an aluminum armored box with an M134 wouldn’t be at the same battle rating as if it had the M40. I would argue that your way of doing things would make it more inconvenient, since again, there’s no mechanic in place to account for if you use the M40 or not.

If you end up wanting to do separate suggestions for each weapon after all, you can just call the suggestion M113A1 ACAV (weapon mounted here). That way you can easily differentiate between each configuration.

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That’s why the m40 is optional, if a player decides to not take it it’s on them, wouldn’t change the battle rating. The trade off for not using the m40 would be it getting its amphibious capability. No difference from carrying no weapons on a plane into an actual match. (Yes you can do this I’ve done it by accident before)

You see they don’t need to account for what the player decides to do, if I want to bring an m3 gmc to top tier I can, won’t change how the game works same idea.

What it offers is options, each with advantages and disadvantages.

Btw the reason the first image is what it is, is because that’s the basic standard ACAV the RR was an additional weapon added over time, same with the miniguns.

I guess that makes a bit of sense, but Gaijin is much more likely to split it into different vehicles / battle ratings based on what weapon system it has by default, as is the case for pretty much every ground vehicle in-game. I wish you luck with your suggestion.

Iirc someone already made a suggestion for loadout based battle ratings. Might have been air specific though.

That’d be cool! It would simplify things for sure, though I guess the question then is where it would be placed in the tree. Something like the ACAV with the M40 would be tier 4, but with the M2 or M134 it’d be a bit lower.

The m40 can be used with both the m2 and the m134 as it’s not mounted on the commanders cupola, instead it would replace the right rear hatch mount