Worse engine, gunner in a more vulnerable position being in the front, and gunner hump potentially being an easy weakspot in return for more ammo and slightly higher top speed.
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Still not correct…
These are your opinions. [Engine is factually NOT a downgrade] [Gunner hump is only a potential weak-spot in that it’s easier to aim at. Not easier to destroy]
Once again, no way in hell would Gaijin put this lower than the base model. Still, it doesn’t make sense as it outperforms the original in many ways.
especially with the other upgrades the A2 can have “like the rangefinder” etc.
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How is having a lower Hp and heavier weight an upgrade though? Practically the only better upgrade is the magnification and the higher top speed. The engine and weight means it takes slightly longer to accelerate and the hump is a potential weakpoint on an otherwise nigh impenetrable turret front. Also what rangefinder are you talking about? It has LRF or something I missed?
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The Tank is a General Side Grade only way to prove it else wise is to add it to the game you can snipe a bit better but at the end of the day your the final logic of the USA WW2 Heavy Tank. HEAT rounds like its in game sister will eat you alive.
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DUDE.
WARTHUNDER ISNT LIFE.
Please, do more research outside of this forum man… Seriously.
P.s that isn’t how engines work [Torque]. And yes, the A2 has an upgraded rangefinder.
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You know you don’t need to be an ass about it right? Besides, an upgraded ORF won’t have any meaning ingame since they’re all treated the same.
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I mentioned the rangefinder purely as an example. Note how I said etc at the end of the previous message. I’m pretty sure I made it VERY clear I wasn’t only talking in-game with the follow up to that message.
Truth being there are in-fact more, and much more important at that, upgrades the A1/A2 have compared to the base production model M103.
Such as the; M14 ballistic computer, Turret electric amplidyne traverse system, A turret basket [Original Had No Basket], improved ammo stows+capacity, upgraded target sight. Then of course there’s the previously mentioned Continental AVDS-1790-2 Super-Turbo Diesel which replaced the outdated Continental AV1790 naturally aspirated gas engine. Ya-know the ill-performing [In the M103] engine originally built for the M46 PATTON!
[But at least some of the Pattons still had a turbo… The original M103 on the other hand, didn’t]
Idk why I’d have to mention most of these upgrades to you myself as most of these upgrades are featured in the original post header.
I’m not being an ass about anything. I made a remark and told you to do more research, because you clearly need to. Especially if you’re trying to talk like you know anything about the topic other than basic WT logic.
all-in-all, the M103A2 is a faster tougher and much more pleasant version of the tank already in-game and it has more than enough differences to be added to said game without it feeling too copy paste as usual… Cough Gaijin Cough.
As the user [MZARC] said the last time the M103A2 was talked about in a WT forum.
“So shut up and give me my crayon eater tank. OOH-RAH.”
From the halls of Montezuma.mp3, EAGLE GLOBE ANCHOR, USMC USMC USMC USMC USMC!
AHHHHHHH! ~ (Gunny) R. Lee Ermey.
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Dropping M469 on the base M103 to push it down while keeping the A2 up, is actually a great idea and I can totally see Gaijin doing that.
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And before anyone says anything about the picture I included of an M103A2. Yes, it’s real
[Ive seen it in person]
And yes, the MERDC on it is 100% real original MERDC from the USMC Reserve Center in Yakima, WA.
This tank is one of a kind, and it is also my favorite… SO I WILL ALLOW NO BESMIRCHING OF IT!
I also made a pretty accurate UserSkin of it which I may or may not post. It really depends on if the A2 is ever actually added to the game and if enough people would want it.
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A hint, maybe?
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I dont think so sadly. I doubt they’ll convert the existing one to the A2.
Could see them drop the A2 as a squad, event, or premium. Though the 7-8 prem area is a bit crowded.
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+1
Gaijin ended up making just about the absolute worst changes to the M103 they could’ve possibly made… The tank is now more structurally weaker than it should ever be, and the actual in game model was changed so poorly it now resembles the model from world of tanks… What a -0 out of 10 update lol. Thanks Gaijin for just completely randomly deciding to ruin the M103, that’s great guys. The new one has to be one of the least accurate M103’s I’ve ever seen, why did they fatten and squish the tank?!
Although the new model is not without a fair number of flaws, overall it is still better than the old one due to the more or less correct position of the turret on the longitudinal axis. Well, and the quality of the model has become noticeably and significantly better.
Explain how it would be a better tank in game and how in game having less HP/T is “good”. .m
its a little faster (not by much) and better range finder, thats all i can name off the top of my head
The M103A2’s top slight top speed advantage is only noticeable over long distance in a straight line on relatively flat terrain. In basically every other circumstance, the base M103’s better p/w is more useful.
To make things worse, the M103A2’s turret traverse is also slower and has one less co-ax MG. The improved sights are nice, but negligible, leaving the better ready-rack as the only notable improvement.
the co-ax MGs arn’t that much of a take away as its just a .308 MG so its not losing much
Sure, but it’s just one more thing the A2 does worse than the base model. More saturation of fire is never a bad thing with MGs when it comes to dealing with light vehicles.
while true, most light vehicles at that BR at reistant to .308s, unless its a ZSU but even then they don’t do much when they pen