Pls no I beg you
Look how long the last one took. Though I actually think the better solution to decompression is not spreading things out even further, but just to reduce MM from +/- 1.0 to +/- 0.7. Has the same effect, but a fraction of the effort and fixes most of the “compression” related issues for all 3 game types
I think thats the thing that will never happen the most
It is a bit peeving that people see harrier and assume ground attack with bad agility. Harrier pretty solid IRL. Just pretty rubbish in game.
If they were accurate with all the bells and whistles, it could comfortably go 11.3 at the high end. Honestly, main thing stopping me playing harriers is just that you can’t flare jack if you’re launched on. Even if their poor state, they’re still good, but the missiles you run into just suck to deal with on this particular harrier.
Just sad the state of harrier.
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my favorite part is where the AMX is at 10.7 with a better FM then the A-7 and has 2 9L’s and an actual targeting pod :Sob:
Yeah, it is utter nonsense that SHAR FRS.1(e) shares same BR on 10.7 with
supersonic flying J-7D or Better AMX
while SHAR has ADEN and stock AIM-9G :/
at least SHAR has AIM-9L as upgrade unlike A-7 though >:(
Typical gaijin’s double standard.
I just tested the Gr.1 time to climb when compared to a source I have. As seen below time to 40k was 142 seconds. A clean gr1 with minimum fuel load (30%) takes 3 minutes in the fastest climb profile. 30 Whole seconds to slow.
The Harriers are only a Husk of what they really were. Even after gaijin was presented a lot of credible evidence of that they simply stated that they don’t believe the sources and thought the harrier was fine as is.
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Sea Harrier FRSE sucks rn.
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They just need to fix bug reports. Its underperforming considerably:
| Harrier 1 | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Attribute | In-game Figure | Expected IRL Figure | Associated Bug Report | Additional comment |
| ITR (with 60% nozzle) (Deg/sec) | 15.3 | 19 | Community Bug Reporting System | |
| STR (Deg/sec) | 11 | 14.6 | Community Bug Reporting System | |
| TWR (At Mach 0.8)* | 0.61 | 0.9 | Community Bug Reporting System | |
| Combat Climb (Ft/min) | 16,000 | 24,000 | Community Bug Reporting System | |
| Max AOA at low speed (Deg) | 40 | 50+ | Community Bug Reporting System | Report only Partially fixed. Some sources indicate 70-90 degree AOA is possible |
| Coefficient of lift (at 200kts) | 0.95 | 1.5 | Community Bug Reporting System | |
| Top Speed at 84% Throttle @ 30k ft (Mach) | 0.94 | 0.98 | Community Bug Reporting System | |
| Pegasus Overheat (°C) | 730 | 794 | Community Bug Reporting System | Source is currently under dispute. So Report may not be possible at this time. |
| Fuel Flow at 84% throttle (Lb/min) | 110 | 210 | Community Bug Reporting System | |
| Breaking stop decelration by100 knots (Seconds) | 22.8 | 3.3 | Community Bug Reporting System | VIFF currently provides no breaking force at all |
| VIFF RCS (Knots) | 120 | 400+ | Community Bug Reporting System | |
| G at Buffet (@ M0.7) | 5.55 | 6.75 | Community Bug Reporting System | |
| Wing Loading (kg/m²) | 582.96 | 388.64 | same as above | F-104 is around 600 |
| * Estimated from Harrier 2 sources | ||||
| Misc Issues | ||||
| Sooty Exhaust | Community Bug Reporting System | |||
| (FRS1/FA2) Missing CCRP Symbology | Community Bug Reporting System | |||
| (FRS1) Missing radar gunsight | Community Bug Reporting System | |||
| (FA2) Missing twin Stores Carrier | Community Bug Reporting System | |||
| (FRS1) Wrong HUD | Community Bug Reporting System | |||
| (FA2) BOL & Twin Sidewinders | Community Bug Reporting System | |||
| Incorrect fuel dump Minimum | Community Bug Reporting System | |||
| Landing gear travel time | Community Bug Reporting System | |||
| AN/ALE-40 Single fire | Community Bug Reporting System | |||
| Extreme Flap Drag | Community Bug Reporting System | |||
| Incorect Flap Deployment | Community Bug Reporting System |
At full strength, it would be very decent for the BR, they all would.
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Well I hit the issue button on most of them. Gaijin needs a “remind me” when issues are fixed so you can try out the vehicles you wanted to play but were terrible. There’s really nothing interesting in WT these days. Just top tier slop upon slop.
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Even with just half of those critical flight performance fixes the Harrier 1 would be improved so massively, it’s absolutely ridiculous that gaijin continues to stonewall them. Especially when their own internal source for denying the changes… is also the same exact one in the bug reports but properly interpreted.
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Yep, agreed. The Harrier should be one of the best subsonics in game, but its average at best
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