Lockheed Martin F-22A Raptor - Transforming the Aerial Warfare

we arent in the sarh world anymore. once you get a lock/ you can launch the missile. all you have to do is to provide DL updates to the missile so that it homes to the general direction of the plane around 7km~ . yes stealth effects the arh seeker, but not as adversly as it does to X band radars. they use radars with bandwith in milimeters, in this band, even smallest deformities like screws, small panel gaps, change of materials etc. give returns.

I would be expecting 250x250km maps for arb in the future

Meteor would be worse in first 10km, but it’s still no slouch, it has a initial solid booster at the start too.

Peregrine would be worse but more aim120d for f22

Idk what would mako do in arb

My point for f35 was sensors. Knowing gaijin, he wont model them all, but atleast some of it, they can refer to the f35 module coming to dcs in future

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From what I have seen with simulated BVR with Gen 5 you effectively launch the missile in “Home on Jam” mode and hope the missile finds it’s target. Yes adding EAWACS would also help against Gen 5 aircraft.

It’s funny because being able to try and maintain a hard lock would be more effective using a Fox 1 then relying on the built in Radar on the Fox 3 to make the correct distinction.

we desperately need bigger maps but players dont like larger maps they want an ace combat experience. True if map sizes stay the same that 120D is going to hit you before the Meteor does from closer ranges but then a UK Typhoon would use ASRAAM in that case.

Carries more which would be a cool way to balance is as the missile is shorter range but you can have more of them. MAKO was for ground pounding which is where every top tier jet ends up. In ground RB

I hope they refer to the Typhoon module being developed…

Playing as an F-35 and providing DL and command and control would be very cool.

Fox 3 radar aren’t that weak, as I said, rcs of stealth jets would be higher in arh missiles bands.

Fox 1 would struggle more than fox 3, fox 3 will initially depend on launcher radar, and then switch to its own when close, fox 1 will suffer as it’s essentially a recieving module, but much weaker than the recieving capability of the radar itself.

No, fox 3 will not struggle that much into homing into stealth jets as initial data is given by the plane itself, which already has the lock.

Awacs and cooperative engagement will make stealth much less effective too as you said. It could dl the coordinates of the target to the missile while you are going cold.

I already expect it to not have HMD and be limited in loadout

Midlife Rafale and midlife EFT are it’s counterparts

The F-22 accelerates much much better, that thing pushes over 52,000lbf without afterburners.

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It only accelerates faster and F-15 still has a big payload and top end advantage

What I am interested in is whether 2 can fit in the side bays with a modification to the missile ejection system

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Nah, F-22 is in its own league, as are essentially all stealth fighters. Its a good thing really, they can fight eachother.

EX is the best EFT and Rafale counterpart, Super hornet I guess too technically.

I personally in the nicest possible way, don’t think you have thought this through, as you would be vying for the F-22 to stomp here. It’s its own opinion, but I’d respect more an admittance of that than what I personally do not think is the most well-thought-out opinion??

I just don’t know what you think a Eurofighter or Rafale is going to be doing against an F-22 in-game?

They cannot even see given IRST’s aren’t performing as advertised and have no launch feature in-game either. You think they should just be the same br given potentially worse flight performance, slower, worse supercruise, equal weapons, equal or marginally better radars?

shoot missiles at it.
and if i wasnt clear i mean a very early raptor (2005 or even before) going against midlife (t3 for typhoon, tbh rafale f3r is already there) with worse AAM, no HMD so the Raptor has to get closer to the typhoon/rafale so they get a better shot at a lock. not to mention rafale AESA radar should help within the effective range of its MICA’s. the seeker of the AIM-120 is also not LPI so they can defend F-22 AMRAAM shots

hopefully they fix the IRST for both since this would also make it more even.

they also dont have to be the same BR. F-22 should be at 14.7 at the very least

notch and use mica-ir/em and asraam and iris-t

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F-22 by December

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Well, well, well… This is certainly coming from a trusted source, and those could arrive sooner than we expected.

Still…

I think that’s unlikely because those are still WIP vehicles, so I expect they may be delayed further into 2026.

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I hope they would bring in a United Korea or LATAM tree before they introduce Gen 5, would love to have the Boromae

Hopefully! I’d love to see the KF-21 Boramae added to the game someday too.

Last bit is like a double edged blade

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That does worry me a bit. Gaijin seems eager to rush in new shiny toys, and I just hope the F-22 doesn’t get added with an inaccurate or broken model, especially since the classified nature of the aircraft would make it nearly impossible for us to submit meaningful bug reports.

Yeah, some parts can be figured out but I think they’ll have to allow pilot interviews for F-22 bug reports

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As has been shown already, you left out the text saying it’ll likely be pushed back. It’s a work in progress, not confirmed confirmed for the December update.

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Leclerc has correct armour values on MSC…Quick nerf it to the same as the Leclerc on live.
F-22 in December…Jesus Gaijin