List of planes of the Federal Republic of Germany (possible additions)

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The Super Tiger is a different plane from the F11F-1. It’s not in the game for anybody currently. (At any rate I’m still hoping Gaijin will see sense and add either the short-nose F11F-1 (Early) or a just a renamed F-11A in the tech tree for USA.)

Lots of Discord image links have died. Seems like Discord must be purging them (because merely not allowing hotlinking wouldn’t have been dickish enough for Discord, apparently).

At any rate, seeing as Argentina is already a de facto subtree for Germany, here’s a possibility for an intermediate option between F-4F ICE and Eurofighers:

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we’ll that’s just discord

besides that, since Argentina isn’t part of the Federal republic of Germany (FRoG) this F-16 doesn’t fit into this thread

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you can mark F4F-ICE and AlphaJet A as implemented

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links no longer work

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it seems to me the creator is no longer active on the forums, last post was several months ago

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last active 5h ago, he just didnt post then Technical moderators - War Thunder — official forum

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He still is…
My guess… Gaijin broke the links by editing the forum.
I want the old one back.

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What about including Su-20?
As far as I know, West Germany bought x2 Su-20 from Egypt in 1980s.
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You can add the F18E/F SH as Germany has ordered some. " *German Defence Minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer has told the US government that Berlin has given clearance for the Luftwaffe to acquire 45 Super Hornet and Growler aircraft."

But you need to remove the F-35 as Germany cancelled the order and doesn’t want them now: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-military-fighter/germany-drops-f-35-from-fighter-tender-boeing-f-a-18-and-eurofighter-to-battle-on-idUSKCN1PP2DM/

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this is outdated information, this was 5 years ago

AKK no longer is defence minister, and her sucessor’s sucessor actually got funding to order F-35As and those will be in full service in germany by the end of 2026

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We will see if they waffle again, but I am sure either way German players would “expect” them to get them due to the Danish having them.

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what do you mean?

germany will not get Hornets, the Luftwaffe has ordered and preferred F-35 over the hornets ever since they started to exist

and Denmark is not part of the FRoG

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What I mean is by association I am certain they would have begged for it. Like you see with the Swiss F16 and the demands for it in the German tree.

the F18 Super Hornets are still coming to Germany. They have not cancelled the order yet. The assumption is they will likely cancel it when the F35s are maybe delivered in 2027. But I have not seen or heard word that they back out entirely of the F18 Super Hornets. At least not yet.

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Having a clearance for something doesn’t mean that something has actually been ordered.

But you need to remove the F-35 as Germany cancelled the order and doesn’t want them now:

???

That article is from 6 years ago (2018), the F-35 order is from 2022:

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/germany-looking-into-buying-eight-additional-lockheed-f-35-jets-source-says-2024-06-07/#:~:text=In%202022%2C%20Germany%20decided%20to,billion%20euros%20(%2410.89%20billion).

the F18 Super Hornets are still coming to Germany. They have not cancelled the order yet.

They haven’t placed an order on them to begin with (because otherwise there’d be a US confirmation, but there hasn’t been one). How can they cancel something that hasn’t even been bought?

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they have never ordered F/A-18Es

and by 2026 mean the last ones will arrive in 2026, the first delivery is scheduled for Q1 2025

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i think its time to bring some luft 46 project that is not completely fake such as me p1101,fw flitzer and maybe gotha go p.60?. Also we could add the hal marut and ha-300 both design by kurt tank and messerschmitt himself.

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can someone check this? how is it possible that 35 su-27 was in the GDR? did they got confused with mig-29?

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AFAIK this table is about orders placed for each aircraft. Not how many were actually delivered or served in the GDR Airforce.

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the order was placed, but the GDR and the Soviet union ceased existence before it could be deliveres

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Order may have been placed though may not be the case, at the time an export model of the Su-27 didn’t exist.