Leopards w/ spall liners are way too op

Ok i thought you were joking, but you make it sound more and more like you are serious

Well the lowest skilled players are on abrams thanks to the clickbait


It is quite unheard of.
Development was finished in 2009.
Compared to T-80BVM we got in game:
engine is 1400 hp instead of 1250 hp one, slightly better zoom choices but gen 2 thermals instead of gen 3, same gun and ammunition, theres less ERA on hull side but turret side has Relikt too. Turret drives are 2E42M which give you 40° just like 2E58 on BVM but vertical drive hasnt been improved.
Muxh better commander sights. Also might have APS but I think its simply my memory being bad.

Nah jk right now as got nothing to do we will see how it goes on

Pretty much happen to every premium vehicles

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Seems fun probably would be after t80bvm but wouldn’t offer alot over it in game

It would be faster than even BVM we have in game which is already insanely fast, main reasons i like T-80B over T-72B/T-90A is the speed and existence of reverse gear, even though T-80B literally can be lol penned by some tanks in its BR range.
This is also reason I love OF-40MTCA but OF-40MTCA also has either bugged survivability or smth because it easily survives shots it shouldnt.

I didnt leave, and most of the comments are just people with BVM trauma not having a nuetrual unbias opinion about how the spall liners need tweeking becouse the leopards are OP. Lol people are so easy to be hypocrits. I play all nations btw, im not a russian main guy. I was in the forums to complain about the BVM, the KA50 ufo missles, the pantsir and all that BS that happened before. Its funny how you call me out yet you are apart of the people that are just so traumatized by russia that the second your nation has something OP you come forums to laugh at the unbalance and justify it by “WE SUFFERED THIS ENTIRE TIME”…

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the problem is that you cant even differentiate between the leopards and the Strv122, you are putting the flak onto the wrong nation. German leopards 2a5/6/PSO dont have spall liners in the chassis, but the Strv122 do, additionaly sweden got lights with spall liners as well,

If you mean spall liners in general even challengers have more spall liner then the german Leopards. You gotta at least specifiy which vehicles you mean and not mislead people

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Hm intresting, the thing is I was noticing it was on all leopards. There was an update today addressing something about Low frag after pen bug, i wonder if this helped a little the issue Im posting about. Too bad they give such little information regarding it.

As far as i am aware, i think that addressed all vehicles. I heard complains for every kind of vehicle. I didnt play yet , since the update since i wanted to wait for armor fixes / just gonna start tmw for the event. So i wont meet that problem either way

only the front and turret unless it the 3 TD then just the front

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the front chassis is more then no spall liner like on the 2a5/6/pso like i said xD

honestly sorry if i presupposed but ive seen the spall liner be more effective on tanks that have ERA on the sides. the front is ok. but the side spall is stupendously bad.
EDIT:
the ERA alone is also showing this effect increasedly after the patch dropped

isnt that only the T-90M?

none in the hull i thought their was maybe im thinkin of the 2A7V strange its the only one then

ive not shot at a T-90M as of yet

edit:
that weird cold war pancake tank does not spall at all tho.

jup 2A7V got all around. The others dont, there is bug reports for the PSO open as well as armor ones for the PSO. But Generaly it always the swedens with the whole package

there is no other tank with spall liners and era if i am right VT-4A1 lacks spall liners still if i am right

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sorry i meant just the effect of ERA after the update. my mistake