omg you ain’t understanding i said inside btw…
Type 10 was added with the same 4s reload it still has now, Type 90 was the one that went from 5s to 4s. It’s also not the fastest in game, only for a top tier MBT. The fastest non-autocannon autoloader we have in game is the Swedish SAV premium at 1.2s.
Type 10 has recorded reloads down to 3.2 seconds as shown here, with even 2.2s reloads recorded (likely with the next round already in the loader). Though these are from videos, so Gaijin wouldn’t consider them sources.
Personally I expect these reloads to go up to their real world maximum speeds alongside more advanced tanks for other nations, since Gaijin do like to hold back reloads for balancing sometimes.
That, alongside maybe a ‘ready ammo’ like function to have the second round load even faster when it’s already dropped in the loader before firing will probably be Gaijins way to keep these relevant alongside future top tiers.
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show me it from the inside
That’s just space for the breech so the gun can depress.If you look at footage of the tank you will see the gun straightens out after firing to align itself with the autoloader.
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that 1.2 second reload was emergency override mode this is a lot older type 90 autoloader one but its basically a conveyor belt system for rounds so really there’s always a round ready all the time as soon you shoot
We actually do know that it works by the same principle as the Type 90s autoloader, which is a revolving rack at the top that drops one round down onto the loading arm, which then extends straight out into the leveled breech of the gun.
This can again also be seen in footage of the Type 10, where it levels the gun to reload after each shot and reloads vary in speed based on which round is cycled in, with the fastest presumably being ~3.2s for the direct next round as well as very rare significantly faster outliers for an immediate round prepared before firing.
How does this relate to making the already short reload of the type 10 even shorter
Not exactly. The rounds are on a conveyor, but the loader is below it. The selected round needs to be dropped onto the loader before firing.
yes but all rounds still go around in a line when firing instead of a manual loader where the rounds are in different spots the more ammo you use so really its always the same reload obvs because theres always a round coming up right behind the one you fired in the exact same spot like a conveyor belt
but again it’s a 22 year leap in tech and type 10 has a completely diff design philosophy working with a lot less space esp turret wise
Gajin draw the “realism” card for the shorter reload times of the russian autoloader.
That means they need to acknowledge the reality for other tanks or they created just another russian bias.
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fr if they want to play the document games on reload times there is plenty of evidence on both type 90/10s reload
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Just saying for those that can’t remember the last buff to leopards, especially A7s/122s, can’t really expect a tank that’s by far the best on release to get any buffs, nvm there really isn’t any to be added other than reloads. Leopards already leads Russian counter parts in manoeuvrability and protection, this only acts to fix the firepower which previously leant towards leopards as well.
Type 10/90s can have faster reloads but again this is up to Gaijin. This is purely a balancing issue. U have to both have 1. a justified reason and 2. documents to back it up.
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2A7/122 sure they absolutely dont need a buff, 2A6 and especially 2A5 is more debatable imo. Although i think the frustration in the leopard camp rather comes from Gaijin putting out multiple questionable nerfs over the entire Leopard 2 line instead of properly using the BR system to balance things. Its a bit annoying when you see russia/china rightfully getting a historically valid buff but you yourself are stuck with bs like the current leopard/abrams baskets or the leopard exclusive stabilizer restriction
Theoretically theres plenty to add like finally giving them armor thats not worse than 90s stuff or giving them rounds that are not 2+ decades old. But i agree that both would be overkill rn
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I mean I mainly think they deserve a bit more decompression. They are for sure better than VT-4 for example but falls behind many many other same BR’d tanks.
Yeah I agree with that, but Gaijin is really not the best at being consistent.
I mean considering that other nations haven’t been given the new ones either and that China for example have absolutely nothing better than what we have RN it will struggle to be balanced.
Reload times are a balancing measure
I think with the addition of the new planes it’s safe to say that decompression is not on gaijins agenda atm lol
It would absolutely be unbalanced and therefore isn’t needed right now. I just wanted to say that there would theoretically be options. Less impactful buffs like fixing baskets (or disabling them until everyone gets them) or making the stabilizer restriction dependent on a turned on stabilizer would be kinda nice tho. Those 2 things are quite frustrating
No,
Type 10 needs its mobility fixed more than a reload buff.
Leo 2s are still the best tanks for their BRs in the game, although the turret basket nerfs need to be dialed down.
All NATO tanks still have the same or better reloads as Russian/ Chinese tanks and use significantly better rounds, I’ll point out that Russia is still missing EVERY one of it’s DU rounds, I don’t know about China.
The L2s are still 1second faster reload than T-72/90s and 0.4 faster than T-80BVM if it’s using 3BM60.
All MBTs have the same modules that break when the FCS is damaged. There are no exceptions.