I cant emphasise enough how much of an understatement this is. There is almost no armour behind the sight. I would not be surprised if a canon such as the 2pdr could crack it.
This is not an alternative addition to a potential leopard like some may claim.
If gaijin wants to add a faster MBT to the british tree it would have to either be a canadian leopard, or australian abrams, both come with a can of worms that gaijin doesnt seem to care about now that an abrams in is the chinese tree
How does gaijin not care?
not care for the contoversy of adding a vehicle coveted by a major nation to another, especially one that a loud minority likes to hate on. Would be less extreme than the china issue for obvious reasons but would still generate a massive salt mine here.
Fair enough
Canadian beauty
and? its still a funny new unique funny addition, in that way its world better then 2a6
Not to mention, 2a6 isnt meta itself anymore either.
So your point is pretty redundant. There is still no reason to add a Leo 2a6 to UK, besides the canadian wanting to have a line up
the better option would be another export challenger 2e variant, when u specialy want more faster challengers
From what i have been told, the one added in the game isnt the greek one, but one that UK tested itself
funnily enough a new suggestion just got created
Still a think to get Canadian vehicule in the Commonwealth tree. The 2A4M should be prefer in premium for UK, especially since the Germans have ‘Elsa’ now.
Cf-188A, Ram tanks, Skink, etc.
With the Leopard 2A6M we can make this line :
Neither Canada nor Australia is a British subtree. This has already been confirmed, they won’t be moving anything and tanks such as SEP V3 and LEO 2A6M would be prem or squad for US and Germany respectively
Gaijin is iffy with add-on armour(even more so on MBTs with many new vehicles), but with the C2 Mexas already a separate vehicle, I doubt the Mexas version of either the C1 or C2 would be module and instead, like TT have it two separate vehicles giving Canada 4 Leo 1 options.
Lights would more likely go in the light line(which is line 5), not line 2, which is now export and commonwealth MBTs. Also, the Coyote is referred to as LAV-II, not the US name of LAV-25.
Also, just a reminder, “M” on Leos stands for “mine protection”. AKA this is nothing more than a heavier 2A6 with Canadian MGs. But even then, there is the German version of the 2A6M, which this is basically a C&P of, meaning if they need a 2A6M premium, they have one domestically operated, and if that’s not enough, they have a Swiss sub-tree that they don’t have room for.
Also, Gaijin has not said no to moving or adding Canadian and Australian MBTs to the UK, just that they don’t want to take away from current owners. As Gaijin has said, all commonwealth additions are on the table else the Hornets and Boxer would be in other trees, along with all other modern equipment but this is not the case, so you be buying or more likly grinding the event for these MBTs just for them to be destoryed by the modern aircraft, IFV/APC(lights/TDs) and SPAA of the nations(everything else for them is in the UK tree, allowing you to make a line-up with them only missing the nations MBT)
Coyote (i’m a former driver, gunner and reccee) is a variant of recce, differente set inside, not allowed to got in the water like the standard, still a lav-2 ( ‘‘lav2.5’’ is the Bison APC, set with Lav III Backdeck and its upgrade, with still them for now, replacing them by ‘Super Bison’ (variant lav 6.0). We’ve shipped some coyote in ukraine too. (64 of 150 retired I’m remember)
Lav-3 (australia, Canada named Kodiak), etc.
But yeah, More lights arround 8.3 to 9.7 should be nice, like the CRV (type 25) as Squadron vehicule.
They did that with Merkava mk.1 (just readded), Mk.2B and soon the Merkava 3D (3B/3C normal tech tree and Ra’am Sagol similar to 3D with more Smoke.)
The C2 could have an ajustement ‘additionnal protection’ like the Ariete few update earlier o(or the TUSK armor for the M1A2 Sep V2)
But you called the Coyote a LAV-25(what the US Marines called the LAV-IIs) tho. I’m well aware what the Cotote is, LAVs are my favourite ground unit, plus I’ve fought far to main US maining claiming they are domestic to the US.
Interestingly, from what I’ve read, this is not an official name, but with how common it is, I bet the troops have taken a liking to it and use it. Much like the civ names for our jets.
Huh, didn’t know the LAV-6.0s had a name, thought it was like the LAV-IIIs not having an official name.
I mean, I wasn’t arguingagenst have the C2 Mexas moved over (I’d love to have it moived to the UK tree, I just think it’s unlikely to happen do to the fact the still seem not to want to move over the Finish KV-2B, which is a sub-tree/nation in a host tree, unlike the Merkav, which was moved to a nation which is its own tree), but the idea they’d make the base C2 and the C2 with Mexas the same vehicle, considering the C2 with Mexas is considerd something else even having the name of a FAL (C2A1) becuse Gaijin considerd it a renamed upgrade or something making them separate vehclies. So I could see Gaijin leaving the Mexas variant of both the C1 and C2 as different vehicles over a modification for the base variants.
12 rbc and 22R veterans call it kodiak.
Not the standard variant, only the APC/AMB/PC variants. the origin of the name… It’s taking the place of the ‘Bison’ and compare thier size… Lav 6.0 ACSV is thicc. (we’ve trouble to park inside of the regiment)
Huh intresting, wouldn’t mind learning more, but that would be taking this thread off topic. If you don’t mind me asking, if you use Discord, are you in the Canadian WT server? So we could move this convo there.
Some days, maybe. If I’ve some time (not really this year)
There you are wrong.
Its still needed not make an actual line up after they moved the 2Pl up for whatever reason and split it.
Germany does not have a single 12.0 tech tree tank. We have to make the line up purely from premiums.
Yes if they are sensible.
But leos or abrams just dont make sense.
You get 4 mbt types of big nation developers.
Thats just nonsensical.
Boxer makes more sense, since germany has many event boxers and you guys only got a weird prototype version as well on top of that and not the actual production variant.
Canada is not entitled to be treated better then other nations. At one point you have to realise, that its a game and just not every body can be satisfied.
You are by far not the only ones affected by it.
But you are the ones bitching the most about it, cause u cant have your way
Additionaly 2a4M can has been specialy denied on multiple occasions already
They gave it DM53 that’s why they were moved up
Germany LEO 2A6M would be a TT and Canadian LEO 2A6M would be a prem just like LEO 2A4M
That i am aware of. But what i mean, is that it was unnecesary, and the 2PL wasnt that needed at 12.3
