+1
Great idea for a gap-filler tank. I’ve often seen people complain about Sweden having more Leopard 2s than Germany, which actually isn’t true but anyway, this could be a step in the “right” direction. 10.7 with DM33 sounds completely fine in my opinion.
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actually that’s true for tech tree “production” leopard 2, sweden have 6 (strv 121, 122a,122b plss, 122b+, 2a4, and 2a6) while germany only have 5 (2a4, 2a5, 2a6, 2a5 PSO, and 2a7v)
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You’re right, I counted all variants incl. event and premium. In terms of TT, as you said, Sweden has one more. In terms of overall, Germany has a few more (PT16-T14, 2PL, 2AV etc(.
But I guess after all TT is what really counts, so thank you for pointing out my mistake.
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+1 10.7 with Dm33
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+1, a Tech-C armor leopard with DM33 is what we need in Warthunder, which fills the gap of germany in 10.7, while germans need also different leopards to add in gap between 10.7 and 11.3 would be great
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No doubt Germany needs it
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Come on Gaijin, forward it :)
Absolutely!
Especially with the amount of premiums addes over the last year or so 10.3 - 11.3 has become a very popular space for people that want to play variants of Leo 2, M1, T-80 etc. but without constantly facing the 11.7 onslaught.
And since Germany only has a single tech tree 10.3 and nothing at 10.7 or 11.0 this would be a very good gap filler.
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Would love to see Germany get some tanks no one else does
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Well it’s basically just a linear upgrade in firepower and armor for the 2A4 but afaik this variant was indeed only used by Germany.
The exported tanks were all more or less of the 1985 2A4 standard which is already in game.
That is correct. 325 C-Tech 2A4s were built. 150 in the 6th batch, 100 in the 7th and then 75 in the 8th batch. The KWS 2 conversion started before 1995 with 125 2A5s being built in the first batch. The number of C-Tech hulls was already insufficient for the second batch of further 125 vehicles (already included some 2A6s).
Fun fact, the 2A6FIN’s hull is currently overperforming. The dutch only had B-Tech 2A4s, which they upgraded all the way to 2A6 standard.
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I know, but nobody bothered to report it afaik.
Tbh it doesn’t matter because why use the 2A6 if you have three Strv 122 with full spall liners and better armor than the 2A7V/HU
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@NoodleCup31 I was wrong, Switzerland used C-Tech 2A4s as well. 225 of the 380 Pz 87s produced, are based on the 6th batch configuration.
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6th batch does not necessarily mean C-Tech.
From what I could find the later Pz 87s got the new heavy sideskirts which are visible here but no further significant changes.
They have all the features of a 6th batch vehicle. Welded hull composite hatch, no ammunition loading hatch on the turret and late heavy side skirts. Winnepennninkcx and Zwilling also call the later vehicles 6th batch tanks. The combat weight of 56,5t supports this as well.
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Well then perhaps they are C tech
The new Puma is going to be the only 10.7 vehicle in the German tree and I’m not sure I want to uptier the regular 2A4 to 11.7.
Please Gaijibbles add this one
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