And it’s so cool looking, hope if they add this as a event vehicle surely we need that triangular camo pattern.
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+1 once other countries and their big boye cannons come too
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Hell yeah.
+1 But may I add a few things…
Chassillan’s new book Char Leclerc sheds some light on the 140mm shell:
The APFSDS uses a 7kg DU penetrator and is fired at an initial velocity of 1650m/s.
Based on the fact that the shell has a total length of 1.5m, a diameter for the penetrator can be very roughly estimated to be 23.4mm:
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This would mean, the length of the penetrator would be ~875mm assuming a DU density of 18.6g/cm^3:
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This would translate to ~790mm @ 0m in-game.
As for the armour: MARS were modified from tranche 3 Leclercs meaning that they used the Série 1 armour package.
The turret can also be visually identified as using the S1 package due to the commander side module.
Here is the S1 armour package:
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And an S2 for comparison:
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I would be stunned if the rod had 11.9mm of diameter. the APFSDS are about 20 to 24mm which is about twice as big.
11.9mm is about the size of the APFSDS of the 20mm.
I believe you’ve misread something…
yeah, i probably did (it’s 3 am here)
It could be the top tier 120S,far from Object 292,becauce the armor of Leclerc…
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it’s classified information, but here is the secret composite armor of the leclerc.
Just kidding, the armor is not that bad but it’s not the best either.
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French top tier in the current state is a mehhh thing. This version can be a welcome addition and a good way to encourage people to grind the tech tree.
+1.
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Yes please, we need more >140mm tanks like the m1 thumper and object 477. +1
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On that subject, I’m surprised there aren’t any suggestion on the Thumper on this forum. It would be nice to compare the penetration values of each of these early 140mm guns.
We already have the one from the Panzer 87-140 :
Not that it matters that much, with these penetration values, you can pen approximately anything (except Stalinium ERA, I guess)
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+1 but I’m pretty sure you can’t fire APFSDS with a muzzle break lmao
Those numbers for the Pz87-140 are fictitious by the way. They assume a 1,000mm penetrator can somehow fit in a 1,000mm shell segment (140mm ammunition being two-piece: 1,000mm + 500mm).
That whole suggestion has glaring inaccuracies. Leclerc T4 and the American 140mm projects are realistically the only viable 140mm additions, the rest never having actually achieved sufficient stabilisation of the cannon.
Well, if there’s one person who I can trust in this matter, it’s certainly you. Ah well, it’s sad though that such a gloriously, overly long canon wasn’t as neat as the suggestion portrayed.
So there are sufficient datas regarding the Thumper’s pen ? That’s actually reassuring.
Apologies for the wait, it escaped my mind. I wouldn’t know to be honest but it should be in the same ballpark. All the 140mm projects were supposed to penetrate a 1,000mm @ 60° target.
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No problem. It would indeed be an upgrade. Provided the stabilisation actually work on these massive guns.
Leclerc was designed for possible up-gunning from the outset. Everything from the turret drives to even the muzzle reference system supported the 140mm cannon.
CATTB and Thumper used a brand new turret to support a larger cannon.
It’s only the Leopard 2s which were not sufficiently stabilised as they never had any major redesign to support the larger 140mm.
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If ever added, this would penetrate any mbt wherever it hits. It’s stated to penetrate up to 1000mm of rha.
one detail, i’m pretty sure the 70% increase is compared the ofl 120 f2, the DU penetrator of the leclerc (690 irl, so 1173mm that need to be converted into WT calculations), not the f1 tungsten rod.