her is the Bug report Community Bug Reporting System
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Great job bro, It would be good if the Kfir C10 were improved to be competitive because, when playing in the top tier (+13 Br) it must be faithful to the reality of the vehicle in the FAC. In addition, it is most likely to receive the most updated armament in the near future(I-Derby-ER and Python 5) for air battles and must have the aircraft capable of competing against its peers, and not be a filler aircraft to give kills to other vehicles of its future Br.
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Gaijin has added SPICE bombs today, only for the F-16 Barak in the game. As I said, this will balance the new SPAAs. I’ve already reported for them to include this weapon on the Kfir C10. I appreciate the support of the lovely forum community: (this kit was also missing on the F-15I and the Baz) Community Bug Reporting System
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Why are our bug reports rejected without us getting a proper answer?
Bug Reports:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/IE1jgaYEnf3m
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/YVq3fEHPT0YL
Every time it is said that we cannot prove that the Kfir was upgraded. Even though it was upgraded from 2013 to 2018
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Why did you edit the message and ping me about it? I dont have any power over bug reports as that is not my area
Sorry im new in the forum, I don’t know who to write to
Ah, well you can contact tech mods with private messages about questions regarding bug reports
They can be found here
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I think there was a misunderstanding. You suggested the Kfir C10 Block 60. I thought you was a tech mod. Thanks for the info.
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and as you may know, the Kfir c10 block 60 is not represented correctly in the game, at least as far as the RWR is concerned
Her ar all bug reports about the kfir that ar still open
ELM-2052 Missing Air to Sea Modes
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/U5gsnH0E7NBe
Kfir C.10 Block 60 Cockpit Plate Number
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/HEtsQ1uox16M
Kfir c10 block 60 Wrong HMD and lacking the lock indicator
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Uzoiegl1CBPH
Kfir C.10 Block 60 Missing SPS-45(V)6
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/QnTC4uBoswUP
We would appreciate it wen all of you support them.
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The Kfir C.10 now has the SPICE 1000 Stand-off kit.
Now the big problem is to convince Gaijin realize that the Kfir C.10 Block 60 avionics are much more modern with israeli tecnology (RWR, HMD and Datalink) as well as the most modern armament capacity (Python 5 and I-Derby-ER)
That is the true power of the Colombian Lion Cub
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Status of reports
•Kfir c10 block 60 Wrong HMD and lacking the lock indicator
Status: Acceptet, not fixed
Link: Community Bug Reporting System
•Kfir C.10 Block 60 Missing SPS-45(V)6
Status: Acceptet, not fixed
Link: Community Bug Reporting System
•Kfir C.10 Block 60 Missing DEFA 553 Cannon
Status: Acceptet, not fixed
Link: Community Bug Reporting System
•Kfir C.10 Block 60 Missing SPICE 1000
Status: fixed
Link: Community Bug Reporting System
•Kfir c 10 block 60 RWR/Missing 360 and 0.4gh to 40ghz coverage
Status: Acceptet, not fixed
Link:Community Bug Reporting System
•Kfir C.10 Block 60 Cockpit Plate Number
Status: not acceptet
Link: Community Bug Reporting System
•Kfir C.10 Block 60 Missing a GBU pylon
Status: not acceptet
Link: Community Bug Reporting System
•ELM-2052 Missing Air to Sea Modes
Status: not acceptet
Link: Community Bug Reporting System
•Kfir’s Missing Drop Fuel Tanks
Status: not acceptet
Link: Community Bug Reporting System
We hope that the bug report get acceptet and fixed
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This is great, the main source of these reports are based on the “Colosseum” upgrade project that modernized the IAI Kfir C.10 Fighter-Bombers to the Block 60 variant to levels similar to modern fighters, because of this, this powerful aircraft should be upgraded to its historical version in the game, and will be the basis for future mechanics that are planned to be added to WT, it will be competitive (BR) and vindicate such an interesting vehicle.
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Greetings, forum community
Often when documents such as sources don’t exist publicly, the possession of weapons, technologies, capabilities, etc. can be demonstrated through photographic and video means. In this case, the Kfir C.10 Blk 60 contains many features that weren’t included in the game (you know: it was simply a C7 with radar and ARH missiles). Therefore, I want to demonstrate the existence of the Targo 2 HMD in the FAC’s inventory with the following resources, sources including Kfir pilots and official FAC media outlets:
TARGO II on the Kfir C.10 Blk 60
As you can see, FAC pilots use the most advance gen Targo II, which has greater capabilities than the DASH HMDs they also possess and which were the first to be acquired.
Some of the features of the FAC Targo II include:
- NVCD and NVG click-on
- Integrated sensors
- Data link capability with the fleet and ground radar system
- 360-degree target tracking
- Used to maximize the capabilities of the Python 5
For these reasons, I propose that this feature be updated on the in-game Kfir C.10 before or at the same time as the Python 5 and I-Derby-ER missiles are integrated, which will increase its BR.
Further changes to its avionics and technology will be necessary for the Kfir C.10 to be historically accurate and competent in the game.
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Good evening gentlemen, as I am currently writing this, I should be heading to bed for tomorrow’s classes, however, the passion and commitment I feel towards the Kfir has driven me forward to write this post
Without any more delays, allow me to present a discovery that will likely put a smile on every Kfir enjoyers face’s:
WE CAN RECEIVE MORE MFD MODES
You may ask, how is this possible?
Well, as many of you may be aware, most air forces produce promotional material for the civilian public in order to garner attention and potentially receive new recruits, this can be —in the case of Colombia— seen in the Colombian Air Force’s Official YouTube Channel, in which they report on operations, news, spread recruitment ads, etc.
Well, I decided to start digging inside the channel in hopes of finding any sort of information, pictures, or video snippets regarding the Kfir C.10 Block 60, and I am glad to report that I HAVE MADE ENOUGH FINDINGS TO MAKE A REPORT (or so is what I believe).
Also, honorable mention, the Kfir C.10 video made by IAI
Allow me to present the following screenshots sorted by category:
Datalink and Sensors
Radar screen being displayed on the left MFD, while Datalink is shown on the right MFD. The radar coverage is (faintly) shown.
DataLink view being displayed on the left MFD, unknown MFD function on the right. This clip is likely from a Kfir 2000 prototype showcase.
Low resolution close-up of the left MFD showing DataLink functionality.
Radar being displayed on the right MFD, while DataLink is shown on the right MFD.
Unknown MFD function being displayed on the left MFD, while Datalink is being displayed on the right MFD.
DataLink view being displayed on the right MFD, the center MFD can be shown presenting the compass.
Top view of the MFD’s, the right MFD shows the radar, while the left shows the DataLink view.
High resolution closeup of the DataLink view, showing the radar coverage as well.
Higher resolution closeup of the DataLink view.
Right MFD shown displaying DataLink functionality, as well as the diagonally left MFD (faintly) displaying RWR functionality.
Weapon Systems
Payload being displayed on the right MFD, notice the center and lower MFD’s are showing the artificial horizon and compass.
Heads Up Display
Left MFD displaying the HUD, notice the remaining MFD’s are showing DataLink (right MFD), compass (center MFD) and artificial horizon (center-left).
Miscellaneous:
In this Kfir, the left MFD seems to be not functioning properly.
Close-up of a ground crew technician about to remove a countermeasure dispenser block from the Kfir.
Memento of the Colombian Air Force pilot graduation, every pilot receives this eagle statue holding a Python 5 missile in its claws as a gift and commemoration of their success.
Please, feel free to correct what has been shown in this post, as I plan to later on use these clips and (better) screenshots from these videos to make a bug report so they can be implemented to our beloved aircraft.
Anyways, I’m off to bed.
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Excellent work! There are many excellent images that can help us correct the error in the MFDs and the functions of the powerful Kfir C.10 Blk 60.
It should be noted that the Datalink system is included in the Kfir and is integrated into the DMM (Digital Moving Map) function of the MFD as well as the HMD.
These images also show what is known as the TM (Tactical Map), which is very useful.
All of this needs to be added to the Kfir’s MFDs.
Thank you very much for your research, bro, and please contact me if you need help preparing the report.
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Thank you very much, I do have plans on making a bug report regarding these extra modes for our dear Kfir C.10 Block 60, however I think we should amass more screenshots and evidence so that our report can be as solid as it can possibly be.
Another factor behind this decision by my part is because I wish to gather at least a minimum of 3 different screenshots for every MFD mode, and I believe this CAN in fact be achieved, after all, the official channel of the Colombian Air Force has around 1,2k videos in total.
Out of which, if we consider the fact that most videos with cockpit footage are usually in the range of 15 - 22 minutes, then we have even higher chances to present more formal evidence.
The Colombian Air Force’s Official YouTube channel, the total amount of videos displayed are roughly 1200 according to YouTube’s estimates.
Another reason I wish to delay the report per se, is that I also wish to integrate sources such as the ELTA EL/M-2052 radar brochure, IAI Lahav Division Brochure for the Kfir C.10, and other sources regarding this.
Why you may ask?
Well, I am pretty sure the Kfir C.10 with its MFD’s can properly handle NCTR capabilities due to the integrated ELTA EL/M-2052 radar, said capabilities could be reported and added thanks to the sources mentioned before.
- A few screenshots from the Lahav Division Kfir C.10 Brochure:
Kfir avionics showcase by the Lahav Division Brochure, most components can be see in their bare state.
MFD modes capabilities portrayed by the Lahav Division Brochure in great detail.
Detailed view of the air radar modes by the Lahav Division Brochure.
Detailed view of the air-to-ground radar modes by the Lahav Division Brochure.
DataLink capabilities shown by the Lahav Division Brochure.
- Screenshot from the official ELTA EL/M-2052 AESA Radar Brochure:
- And lastly a screenshot from the official IAI Kfir C.10 Brochure:
I believe there is a lot of material to be found regarding the Kfir C.10 Block 60, and I will require EVERY SINGLE OUNCE OF HELP AND DEDICATION FROM EVERY KFIR ENJOYER, we have a valley of information to discover, and I believe it is our duty to supply the Kfir C.10’s correct capabilities as owners of this amazing aircraft.
Lastly, for those willing to venture out, check the Colombian Air Force’s channel, it seems to be our biggest mine of information.
I will remain here on standby awaiting any further developments from other community members, and of course, I will continue to provide updates.
Cheers.
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I’m sure my friend, in fact, related to NTCR in the radar MFD (in the cockpit), has already accepted the report a few months ago, but they still haven’t fixed it, I ask you please to support him in remembering it.
MFD Kfir C.10 wrong: NCTR // Gaijin.net // Issues
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Sweet, I think that with the sources brought forward by myself and this report you’ve mentioned we can do an extra report perhaps?
After all, it seems the best way to see a change implemented is to beg and nag constantly.
+1 for the extra info, will definitely look into the source provided by the report.
Also, let me know if you’ve got any means of contacting, so we can put all of our sources together.
Lastly, we use the same pfp haha, that’s pretty neat.
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