Oh dear, i have absolutely no progress in Italy. I’m cooked, deep fried, boiled, grilled, smoked, cheezed.
Considering KF41 hasn’t been added to the Germany despite it was promised years ago I’m don’t trust Gaijin in this case.
They didn’t even bother to add more armored Leopards to Germany while Sweden still has 3 of them and more are on its way (2A8 and Norway 2A7V).
Gaijin is holding it off because it’s a Private venture by an international company that currently no Nation has bought
since Rheinmetall doesn’t have a tree there’s no tree it could go to
same story as for the KF41 IFV
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Where was KF41 Promised? I remember it being denied when it was added to Italy
It didn’t, Gaijin explained that Germany will get its own proposed configuration instead of getting the same version that Italy has.
well then where is it? or are they waiting for the proposal to happen first
Hungary is planning to buy it. They could add it to the German or Italian tech tree under a Hungarian tag.
The KF51 that is
Hungary is Italian subtree, its vehicles are added to Italy. Germany can get its own prototype though.
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Hungary is already in game in the Italian tree, just like the KF-41 once they actually buy the KF-51 it would go there
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theres no prototype for a KF-51 for the German armed forces because there’s neither an open Trials programme nor was the tank designed to Bundeswehr requirements or Ideas
it’s a private Company prototype and as such won’t come to Germany just like the KF-41
not to mention italy itself both aquired both the Lynx and the Panther (rn 4 hungarian configuration Lynxes have been delivered which will modified accordingly to the italian variant this year, the italian version of the Panther will arrive in a few years)
Aren’t tge Hungarian KF51 supposed to be just a Leopard 2A4 upgrade? So potantially it could be quite different from the Italian one. If it will get only 120 gun, then it will probably will be only a sidegrade to the Leo2a7, isn’t it?
No
New hull
They already made for Germany but in the end Germans went with PUMA due to protection level was not satisfying on KF41.
Iırc German version does have 35mm crewless turret and couple different things.
And yet other nations get the vehicles they produce and export. So that’s not an argument anymore.
“Protection levels”, how nice that GJN didn’t bother to actually implement those.
if they tested them too yes
US didn’t get F-86K or F-2A either
US didn’t get M51 shermans
UK didn’t get M22 locust even tho they made the prototypes
Italy has no Panther, why do I always read this? Also Hungary has none. They just planned it. They think about it. Thats all. Its a long way until it might get added. Just considering something won’t qualify for getting it added ingame.
Possibly never, cause Germany is blocking new defence joint ventures with Hungary, cause Orban etc.
The conversation was about Lynx rather than Panther actually…