JA37DI Discussion

Theres an easier solution - F-16A without AIM-120

and That is how Gaijin got rid of historical AIM-120 from Italy and Taiwan on their F-16A

Italy rented a fleet of F-16A ADF from the USA to replace Tornado ADV and got AIM-120 capable plane in their air force.

and Taiwanese F-16A MLU also can fire AIM-120 (of course, historically it needs to have extra CM just like Belgium F-16AM does.)

But Gaijin didn’t give AIM-120 to them just like JAS39A.
I don’t know why but maybe balancing problem.
and also there might be some players who want to keep their F-16A on 12.7BR without ARH rather than being higher BR with AIM-120.

Until a few hours ago.

If we can have three JA37D with two variation (With RB99/Without RB99)

then maybe Italy and China can have their F-16A with AIM-120 as a foldered vehicle too.

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It can be 13.3 or they can give it AIM-120C-5 at 13.7)
Also since Italy accomodates Romania, I believe we can get their F-16AM (Block 15 MLU afaik), probably won’t be very different, but will have ground ordnance.

Love their camos:

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They do? I never actually knew that.

Nah, personally im fine with it. In consumer perspective, if i can affort more to pay, why cant i have a better jet and experience about it.

Gaijin trying not to make questionable/bad decisions challenge (impossible) (gone wrong)

Why can’t you just add the historically accurate weapons to the 37D (Rb99s) and 37C (Rb74s) while adding a late 70s/early 80s Viggen with the weaponry the current 37C has to make up for this supposed gap. Since a vehicle is being added eitherway, you might aswell make them all accurate to reality for once.

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Cuz that means a longer grind and worse stock experience for players. Also, to be honest. The JA-37C is in the best state it can be currently br and weaponry wise. Only limited by the RB24Js vs every other planes capability of having All-aspects That are definetly superior

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@Smin1080p_WT may i ask what the reasoning is for the Ja37di not getting the RB74M (Aim 9Li-1) despite the fact the F4F ice has a better radar, more missiles and the Li?
I know the Li and Li-1 are different as ones low smoke
But overall it seems unfair to give the ICE one thing and the Di another, especially as with higher br the airframe starts to matter less.
If the RB74(M) are TT only then thats fine and means they arent identical in every way
Also there are many documents stating Sweden procured and upgraded version of the 9L before Gripen entered service, the ja37d lived on to see the gripen get outfitted with IRIS-T.
It would be a fair assumption to say Sweden upgraded all RB74s as well as theres no difference in designation, same way the Aim 120-C5 in sweden is still RB99

Because it never used it. Simple as that. (At least there’s no sources indicating such, but yes info on the procurement of the missiles does exist, however it’s not the kind of source gaijin is looking for it seems).

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Sir, Can I get the ‘reasons to play Swedish tech tree vehicles’ for the greater good?

For now, It seems there is no reason to play Swedish air to me.
Unless more advanced jets like JAS39E show up

The best props of the Swedish air branches are imported(-ish) ones.
Finnish Buffalo(Which can be unlocked very easily at low rank)
Finnish Bf-109G (Which can be founded on the original German branch. and being sold as prem too)
Finnish Pyorremyrsky (Prem)

As @Jwaren says, every Swedish jet except Gripen is also can be accessed by buying premium jets with the wallet.
and Gripen can be also seen in British and Italian Air branches.

Also, some other jets in the Finnish part of branches can be founded in other countries too.

  • Vampires come from British origin and can be founded on Brit, ITA too. (well vamps are mediocre and useless on the current meta after Gaijin buffed MiG-15 and F-86A into 8.0 though.)
  • J34 is the Swedish domestic version of hawker hunter. and there are a few more hunters.
  • and MiG-21bis are soviet bestsellers so you can find them widely in Eastern Europe.

even though smin1080p introduced the regular tech tree version of JA37Di, It seems the Swedish air branches are not juicy to climb up for air mains.

maybe the ‘CAS plane needed for GRB’ might be ONLY reason to climb up the Swedish branches if you have enough dollars to spend

Also,

it isn’t plenty of reason

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I wonder if the reverse is true as well
I do recall a J8 variant that was similar to the j8f but without the pl12
as someone who enjoyed flying the j8f before it recieved arhs I’d enjoy seeing it added somehow

edit: I just remembered what it was, it was the j8h with pl8’s and pl11’s as it’s max non irccm a2a loadout
would support them adding it as a stepping stone between the j8b and f and foldering the lot

Only if you care about meta/good stuff. If you just want to fly unique planes, then that’s a reason to play it.

It is a surprisingly bad air tree. Their domestic props are overtiered because people don’t know how to counter them (like Italy, but at least Italy has some gems), and the jets are fairly meh.

I wouldn’t recommend it, but there is at least some reason to.

Swedish ground is decent, but it doesn’t get good until 8.0.

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Agrees that Swedish Air has much of unique jets. just like the British branch does maybe?
it would be great if Gaijin didn’t sell all of those unique jets as their premium variants. :|

Almost done with British Air, for now. (need to research SAAF JAS39 and awaiting Tornado GR.4)

and was thinking about one of Israel/Japan/Sweden/France as second branches to climb.
Eh… still not eye-catching much due to heavily overrated BR. :(

Maybe going to climb Sweden as third, thanks to the regular tech-tree variant of JA37D with RB99
(well I think it will be gonna pain in the ass just like Tornado ADV late did though.)

Might be long and painful, and going to think ‘Why am I researching this branch now? meaningless and painful’ feelings sometimes though.

Rare Gaijin W, just like the SK105 situation.

However you should not be able to pull a JA 37Di Early out of nowhere. Therefore this makes the premium vehicle a reskin, and reskins are something you should avoid.

Change the J35XS to J35Ö just like you did with the CV105, therefore there won’t be a premium problem for Sweden and you can implement a Finnish Draken at the tree. As well as not copy pasting and selling a reskin


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One question. Why just copy paste the Di? When the IR-OTIS version could have been the TT version and the Di being the Prem version.

Gives a bit of originality you know.

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Whats the point of doing that? It would only add another step in research JA37C (early) > JA37C > JA37D > Gripen A with both JA37D and Gripen A sharing the same BR. Current implementation is way more healthy for us players especially since we get our jet for half the RP.

Assuming you meant Pvpjtgb 1111 and not PSJS 1111, you now have my attention.

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There arent that many but I personally enjoy all Viggens, A32A, J29F, Gripen C and Saab 105G