Did anyone actually make a bug report for BOL? I guess it will fail because while nerfing the BOL just on logic seems fair to Gaijin, fixing it would of course require multiple sources right?
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Yes report was made and accepted…12 months ago
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Now, this might be cope, but surely they are going to rewrite the IR Mechanics and then fix the BOL, right?
Taking their sweet time with it maybe in time for the Xmas release when they add IIR missiles.
It gets better because as we know only Typhoon and Gripen actually operate with spectral countermeasures (Russia do not have them and the US hasn’t adopted them completely)
France are in the process and as it stands Typhoon flies with them
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I guess they can take their time for now, Spamming flares and chaff does work in ARB with the older generation of missiles, and with the new missiles in GRB the ground players may just finally be able to breathe for a few months without CAS.
We will see what the 120C brings it has a similar seeker to MICA so harder to chaff
I`m not even certain its gonna make it to the live server, just like what happened with the R73 that got delayed. It is very early in the dev server so I guess we gotta wait and see what changes. Also they still have the Aim120B model afaik, so early in development
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The fact it is statistically reserved for the poorest performing 14.0s I think it’s pretty much guaranteed.
No, on the Harrier it was also annoying. It’s just that the Harrier is easier to lock down for a gun kill. Back when the Gripen was both a UFO and immune to all IR threats it was extremely annoying. Maybe it’s unreasonable to ask that missiles with IRCCM be capable of keeping track of a hot, high performance fighter engine even if they’re spamming flares from their ~500+ CM dispensers.
It’ll still be bad gameplay to just let BOL aircraft ignore any close range threat, just like the ridiculously overperforming L-370 system is also bad gameplay.
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Make BOL great again
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It is potentially also worth considering that a multitude of advanced formulations do also exist for (some) other dispensers so it could be rolled into a wider push for (multi-) spectral flare functionality to be implemented. So it’s not as if non-BOL equipt airframes would be entirely left behind, if Gaijin went that way.
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1280BOL countermeasures on the finnish MLU2 hornet:
(That thing is gonna be immune to IR missiles)
Oh my sweet summer child…It really wont be
Yeah. it might be.
But I still stand by what I said here
If the only issue with BOL being at full strength is the few aircraft with 4 or the even fewer that have 8. Then reduce their BOL count. Dont nerf all BOL even those with only 2.
Tornado F3 or Viggen DI with 2x BOL shouldnt suffer because the F-18 has 8x BOL or the Gripen has 4x BOL. Thats just unfair
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in an air RB setting, I doubt it’s getting hit by an IR missile
I can tell you with near certainty it will, periodically dropping BOL flares will not save you
With full strength BOL… probably not, at least in rear aspect. It depends how they model it for front aspect.
With the current BOL, not if they stay sat on reheat, BOL wont work
Hmm… Wouldn’t that have an effect like the sun rising behind you? So the plane gets superimposed by the radiation of the IR-Cloud behind it from the view of the missile seeker.
Additionally this could also be the difference between full focal-plane-sensors (AIM-9X, ASRAAM) and line-scan sensors (IRIS-T) as the the IRIS-T can just ignore the scanned lines which are blinded by IR-radiation keeping only the few lines which actually show the plane. Same for standard flares as the IRIS-T would just ignore the few lines where the flare is falling preventing blinding of the other lines.
Voted NO.
Explanation:
Nah just dont. BOL pods should be as they are, as long as an R60M goes for flares in a rear-aspect shot, instead of a fully afteeburning jet even below like .8kms.
Once Flares are not just a “push to disarm any incoming missile” there is no real need to push older missiles into the category of useless.
The BOL pod wouldnt solve a problem, without creating 2 new problems, in a typical Gaijin style.
Also remember: many of the two top tier jets without their ARH missiles rely also on subpar IR missiles in TT before unlocking good ones.
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Problem with that mind set is many jets purposely now (Not Russian)
Have tiny internal CM stores and use BOL pods and protection systems to increase the number.
You should do a test and see how many BOL flares it takes to defeat an R-73?
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