Israel Python 4 and 5 in Israeli Planes

things like IRL lock ranges and push ahead could be modeled. Those would help greatly.

Given somewhat IR centric nature of Israeli tree in game, I wouldn’t mind rearming “top tier” with domestic armament. That means P4 and Derbys, better WVR at expense of BVR, giving different playstyle/take on otherwise copypaste aviation.
Also if AAM3 is watered down to fit the game, I see no reason why P4 couldn’t receive tracking suspension only seeker, should current combined flare rejection prove to be tad too much.

Python 4 isnt on 9x a d irist level it should come now

It’s still better than every ir missiles currently on planes in overall usability and irccm

Sure but its not that big of an upgrade more so if u just nerf its irccm like aam3
R73 is still gonna be the best for df(shouldnt be the case but russian bias so…) and it doent have alot of range like r27et (might be even less them aam3)

It would make the longer range than average actually effective cant have that.

Wrong, and it still doesn’t take the fact it will still be the best IR missile in the game by quite a significant margin.

Clearly russian bias :clueless:

That’s what happens when you compare it to a long range IR missile yk

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No its not if nit the irccm it wont be as good
Yes it will probably be yge best but it will not break the game

R73 can pull over 50gs with no issue but sure its not overperforming
Meanwhile p5 can berly turn 20gs

Yea thats the point it wont be a step up in performance exept the irccm
Not best range and not the best pull
It will be smt in the middle like r27t with hard pull

I mean, he’s not completely wrong, overall it’s only slightly better then an IRL accurate AAM-3, and we have it in game. And its not like the AAM-3 is the only missile in game missing performance, stuff like the PL-5EII are lacking in IRCCM, and the Magic 2’s maneuvering still isn’t fully modeled correctly. Also stuff like an R-73M could be added.

IMO it could either be brought to game gimped like everything else, or ungimp everything else, and either way it would be within the ballpark of other missiles. Like, it would be the best, yeah, but not by an insanely large margin.

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kurnass 2000 never used python 4

could it be carried tho? gaijins position is that as long as the plane could carry ordnance, it could theoretically get them in game.

never seen a pic of kurnass 2000 with python 4 , so until then i dont belive its capable of carrying it

Can u like bump a suggestion for it or smt?
Israel rly needs a df missiles

No, I can’t.

That being said, the python-4 has been in the game internally for quite a while from datamines. So gaijin has likely atleast been considering its addition for quite a while now.
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seekerhead actually isn’t as insane as I thought it was, but it would still be best seekerhead (for an air to air missile on planes, not counting the air to air missiles on sams) in game. OFC since this isn’t an actual missile in game these are probably just place holders.
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They line up with SAMs/MANPADs in game with the same seeker type, and they’re fully functional (i tested it a while ago). So it’s probably pretty close to what we’d expect to see in game.

I hope ur right

It’s very curious that the addition of a weapon is good or bad depending on whether it’s better or worse than other weapons from other nations. In the specific case of the Python, the P4 should be included not because it’s one of the best, but because it exists on the following aircraft:

  1. F16s Barak-Sufa
  2. F15s Baz-Ra’am
  3. F35 Addir
  4. Kfir C10 (a special case because it only has a P3 and its br is very low)

And for this reason, the BVR I-Derby missile (which slightly improves the existing Derby) should also be included at the same time.
These missiles should have been there for a while to complete the Israeli branch of vehicles.

Only diffrance is in the seeker but gaijin didnt make a better seeker fo tge i derby so its a complete cp

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Well, in this game, the logic is simple. If the missile is better performance than R-73 or R-77, then ban it or nerf it. Even the mig-21 F-13 BR is lower then the relic of WW II like Me-163 B-0 (AB:9.3) with only 60 rounds of 30mm compare to earlier mig-21 (AB:8.7) IR missile.

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