And yet they both see eachother as the True China, so they’re put under the “China” tree. Israel and Turkey are fundamentally different, having their own identities, culture, language, religion, etc. It would also cuck Turkey and Korea, both nations that have historically had a great relationship- both of which are not in War Thunder. The only place I can see Korea going as a subtree is to the US, who frankly don’t need it. There are 3 Turkish vehicles TOTAL;
1 Hidden Prem + 1 Available Prem (Italy) and 1 MBT (US Event). There are zero Indigenous Turkish vehicles in the game and no Korean vehicles at all. Adding them both together would be the move, rather than adding Turkey to a nation that they currently don’t have any diplomatic ties with and don’t really add anything but the M60, F-4 and F-5. Thats all they worked on together, over like 1-2 decades. It’d be a massive slap in the face to all Turkish indigenous vehicles made before and after ties w/ Israel.
Lavi is indegenous,Namer is indegenous, these are other indegenous israeli veichles
Where did they announce this? I’d like to read up on it.
SPYDER and the other thing with the C-RAM were passed to dev long ago but still nothing, lazy devs.
i’m pretty sure it’s getting the HVSD/ADAMS next update, or that’s just my thoughts.
Python is the lower performance of the two for an SPAA- 20km max range instead of 40
the most likely spaa is the HVSD/ADAMS, showed in this suggestion,
which uses a CWIS and the BARAK-1 missiles.
Was in the last cm disclosure
Its a saved screenshot that only partiaöy shows it, to lazy to make a new one /search it
Israel does not need any new sub-trees. Its indigenous arsenal is incredibly potent which would make it more competitive if added. All Merkava Mk.4s should have gotten its LIC turret value years ago, Israeli jets should have gotten their SPICE bombs, SPYDER AiO and HVSD/ADAMS should have been added years ago alongside Pantsir-S1 and 2S6 respectively. If received proper buff & balancing, Israel would dwarf Sweden in both ground and air. So no, I’d rather get Israel domestic stuff (fixed) rather than some new Arab or Turkish sub-trees. I don’t like Israel having copied-pasted top tier vehicles from another nations (especially its enemies) like the NL series Leopards.
Totally agree!
Israel top tier is a pain to play without any functioning SPAA system. The Machbet is a fucking 9.3 vehicle, and it is LITERALLY UNUSABLE at top tier. Like what the actual fuck am I supposed to do against a Ka-50 spamming missiles at me from 6-8 km if my made-in China TEMU missiles can’t lock onto jack shit if they are further than 3 km.
But what about the Imp-Chapal? It’s 0.7 br higher and it is objectively worse than the Machbet in every aspect. Same missile performance but the missiles have a fixed seeker aka= shit. The platform has worse mobility and somehow worse armor. And last but not least you don’t have a gun! So, what is the upgrade that demands 0.7 br increase? More missiles and a better thermal, which is not that big of a deal considering that with the addition of ammo boxes the more ammo upgrade means even less, and thermal is useless.
Israel needs a functioning top tier SPAA NOW!!! I don’t care about “muh historical accuracy” functionality should come first. So, put the American ADATS into the Israel tech tree as placeholder until the devs finally figure something out.
We have 2 good sugestions of real israel spaa passed to.dev but gaijin taking ages to implement
I’m not surprised at anything gaijin does, they either need to add spaa or let us spawn anti air CAS easier
This is why I said that they should just give Israel something thats already in the game as a placeholder while they take their sweet sweet time to create and ad the Israel native vehicles.
Israel doesn’t have SPAAs.
This idea sucks.
In game or in real life?
If in game, this is true (in regards to top tier)
If in real life, this is the opposite of true
Israel has a lot of potential for SPAA, such as the SPYDER AIO or HVSD/ADAMS, both exceptionally capable anti air vehicles.
Israel doesn’t operate the SPYDER and the ADAMS is a bit… meh
That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t receive them (The Kfir C.10 was never operated by Israel, but they still received it), and the ADAMS is, from what I’ve read, superior to the Pantsir-S1 in some aspects.
I am curious however, if these vehicles aren’t applicable as you say, what should be added?
After doing further digging, a lot of stuff about the Barak 1 is classified so that’s off the table.
If Gaijin got the C.10 in, then there’s nothing stopping the SPYDER from being added, and if none are applicable - the next thing is the Patriot and implementing that would either be unplayable or the most BS thing in the game since you need the radar and all.
They are planning to add multi-vehicle anti air systems, so I don’t doubt Patriot being added in the future, but I’m not knowledgeable on it so I won’t argue balancing. I don’t think the Barak-1 missile is as mysterious as you think, this suggestion thread goes over it quite well in my opinion.
It’s a fun read