Israel needs more anti airs and a fix for the spyder

He meant for the confirmed greece/cyprus subtree, which I dislike.

If Israel its to have a soviet spaa, at least the captured strella with wheels.

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Its only strela 1s so no ircm i think so a good 9.3 to 9.7

Just add spyder SR at 11.0br.

I could be wrong but I think they moved imp down in br to add another spaa otherwise it doesn’t make sense leaving a nation without an spaa from 9.3 to 12.7 that’s a 3.3 br gap with no spaa and a strella is not cutting it it’ll be at 9.7 or around that which doesn’t solve the issue it’s better than imp but no
HVSD/ADAMS is the only option between 10.7-11.3

I’d rather they fold the whole Israeli tree into USA (their puppet master), than to combine Israel with Greece, lol

Though Strela with wheels is required ASAP, in general.

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not enough space for all israeli stuff

Or they should move spyder AIO down to 11.0 and add spyder LR

Would be to good for 11.0
Some jets cant even receive radar ping because of the radar band

Which makes it a downgrade over Chaparral, as 9D with Stinger seeker is no joke.

Given that 80-90% of their stuff is USA with vis mods or a few extra weapons options, and just a smattering of French and British stuff. The Merkava (and by extension the Namer) is the sole unique thing in the entire tree. And I sure would not miss the “Why Israel have better (X) than USA?” threads.

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Still gonna be the biggest sub tech tree in one of the biggest tech tree in game.

They be jealous the tech tree has the magach hydra
I would be jealous too tbh

Actually if they are adding patriot/s400 I really want david sling to be in game. It fulfils all my requirements of a good AA system. Fast. long range, both IR and radar.

I doubt it would be much bigger then the UK tree will be if they ever actually add all the missing Indian & South African stuff.

Israel top tier air should be unique if they add python 4, derby er and all the CAS weapons.

Side-fold them with the USA counterpart. What I mean by that is rather than having to research one then the next like in the current folding system, put them side by side so either one unlocks the next plane. For example when you unlock the F-4E both the F-15A and Baz become available to research, unlocking either on of them unlocks both the MSIP and Baz Meshupar etc.

I mean, arguably Israel can just be similar to Canada. Almost everything (besides some ground stuff) are based on French (Nesher, Kfir, Zachlam SS.11), British (Sho’t, Meteor, Spitfire) or American (Ayit, Baz, Kurnass, etc.) weapons/vehicles. I think Israel to too big to be part of the US.

Either way, it’s in the game now so it’s more likely it’ll just remain as it is, a Tech Tree. I’m not happy abt Cyprus → Israel but there’s not nearly enough Cypriots unhappy with this. I’d much rather have Cyprus + Turkey + Greece combined- but that’s just my fancy, I know it’d go against tradition to have something like that. I don’t think I’ve met another Cypriot on this forum, only some Greeks, Turks or others arguing over Cyprus’ inclusion.

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Yeah, I’m not Israeli/Greek/Cypriot or anything like that. I just prefer nations to have a meaningful connections when lumped together. Maybe Israel and those nations do and I’ve just missed that part of history. Like, I’d hope it’s not just a ‘Hey, Cyprus is pretty close (in proximity) to Israel, so let’s dump their vehicles in the Israeli tree’.

Trying to discuss Israel while avoiding ban able political topics is like trying to dance the highland fling through the Korean DMZ without blowing your legs off, let’s just say that the UK and the USA are probably the closest allies politically and militarily, the other nearby countries I get the impression Israel is like that neighbor that keeps insisting the backyard fence is too far onto his property. I’ll leave it at that as I’m not trying to start a political fight, just explain why some nearby countries might not be too happy about being added to Israel (in game of course).

Oh, I know that part of history. I know why they wouldn’t want to, I’m trying to see if there was some secret relationship between Israel and Greece, etc, I didn’t know about. But yes, very touchy topic. I honestly would have preferred a Yugoslavia tree with Serbia, Croatia and co. So much depth, unique variants. But alas here we are. (I do love playing some things in Israel tree like the Ayit).

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