https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/YMLQJSEdkUWO
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You do know that the Longbow is not so modern? The Longbow is from 1997 and the AGM-114L is from 1998. Afaik the IRIS-T SLM isn’t even fully in service yet, so it’s pretty much: Helis that were used against talibans against SPAA that is used against the Su-35 and 57 :))
Not entirely true, the maws systems on helis in game including ka 50, and AH64 series are more modern. The DIRCM on the Apache and KA52 were designed specifically to defeat missile IRCCM’s by generated a heat signature bigger than the aircraft while flaring making it impossible to keep lock do the targets heat signature being masked entirely.
ALQ 144 - Apache
The KA52s is different with it being a DIRCM which is a laser that detecs in coming IR missiles and intercepts them by destroying the seeker head with the laser beam. The Apache was out fited with a similiar CIRCM module but only on the AH64E.
- the CIRCM system on the ah64
Ok. You get the idea. The IRIS-T SLM is more modern the the F-15EX. Fnf is a need for everyone
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It already is, those apache clones not being garbage would only be beneficial
Im 99% sure thats not how it works, theyre dazzlers not hard kill lasers. We dont have such compact lasers able of actual damage yet
Properly modelled for everyone which means actually lethal, no hits on engine decks or front armor. Especially if we get cm502 or lmur which have he warheads capable of oneshotting everywhere.
It doesnt really day anything about it being hardkill but it does say it can reach a max of 250watts of power which is quite a bit, i doubt its enough to melt through heat resisistant material wuick enough to defeat a missile though, laser also arent as powerfull the further your project them that. Are you sure its meant to destroy seekers, even it says it confuses them, forgot to mention styropyro made a 250 watt laser like 10 days ago lol and it can melt a penny very quickly but thats point blank against pretty weak metal.
Even then disrupting the missile while using flares along side the ALQ144 the target both disrupts and masks its self making it impossible to kill with a heat seeking missile.
Mind you gaijin did not implement imagining seekers into game yet. So that argument in and of itself doesnt work. They work just like R73s and AIM9Ms so far.
Yeah i had to delete my reply caus ei wanted to put a bit more thought into it. I read this https://www.spiedigitallibrary.org/conference-proceedings-of-spie/9251/1/Requirements-for-laser-countermeasures-against-imaging-seekers/10.1117/12.2067264.full
And the references + a few other smaller stuff.
That needs fixing cause imagin seekers were a nassive leap for fox 2s
As long as i dont need to fight with my MBTs against it… wait a second…
Even then the source you posted shows that depending on the watts and size of the target it can defeat ir imaging systems. Together with flares and the ALQ 144 it defeats the missile.
I know, but it doesnt really say anything about actually defeating a missile. It says how much is required to damage it which is half the nominal strenght of the circm from northrop grumman, which makes me skeptical about the 100watts at 1000 meters.
I can agree with range at 1000m but as the missile gets closer the stronger the signal of the laser is. So 1000km it may be 100W but at 500m it may jump up to what Northrop is saying 800W - 1200W which would be more than enough to damage the seeker head.
My skepticism comes from the nomeclature if these were hardkill systems they would be names as such, it would make them actual DEWs, the would use the “confuse” wording.
the same source is confusing bc here they mention more than just the CIRCM so its hard to understand which system they are talking abt, but the do mention the “Laser Jamming” from the CRICM
Check ka 52 m, that thing literally uses kh 38 on inner pilons lmao