IRIS-T - The pinnacle of IR guided Short Range Air to Air Missiles

i mean… diehl’s brochure says

– Seeker cueing by radar, helmet mounted
display, infrared search and track device,
missile approach warner and data link

Diehl saying that the SLM has a “newly added” datalink doesnt explicitly mean that the A2A doesnt have one. SLM is a whole new system so it wouldn’t surprise me if the launchers of the SLS just lacked the datalink and its a new addition to the launchers or TOC.

also i wrote “it was designed to receive targeting data via datalink, such as MIDS” which, even if there’s no datalink between aircraft and missile, is still correct.

Their (and by extension my) wording is very vague on purpose lol

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The same brochure also says “Predictive flight path tracking and lock-on-after-launch features enable the missile to engage targets in the rear hemisphere as well.”

You wouldnt need predictive flight path tracking if the target position could be updated with datalink after launch

Modern IIR seekers can easily detect flares based on their size, shape and rate changes. It really doesnt matter if they are large caliber or small, burn hotter or colder, they all get rejected

There are flares that can defend against IIR seekers in specific circumstances. Instead of being a single hot point, they consist of a chaff like material that burns up when exposed to air, leading to large hot cloud that can obscure the target and disrupt the tracking, but only in a rear chase scenario


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That’s much easier to understand ty

Its not guaranteed though.
With predictive flight path you can generally increase the pK in case the target gets obscured by clouds, buildings, trees, telephone poles, etc.
It would be possible to reach the same LOAL capabilities by having the aircraft predict the flight path and just giving the missile a different coordinate to fly to.

Essentially gaijin would need to update their modelling of countermeasures for these newer modern missiles.

Have you just completely ignored this? Spells it out for you
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/PX7CKrwWNGdr

Oh wow, thank you for telling me I ignored something I had never seen before, you are so thoughtful honestly!

Given how frequently I saw your name in the AIM-9 thread I don’t know how you could have missed it.

My name? Mate, the last time I was there was in December, and only talked about the R-74 (and IRIS-T as a sidenote), so I dunno what kind of information you have or where from, that I allegedly attend to that place frequently when I don’t, do I have a doppelganger I’ve no knowledge of?

To be fair, With the F-4F ICE around the corner
It would be an interesting test plattform for the IRIS-T just like the Su-25BM was for the R-73

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brother there is too much hopium in your message.

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so turns out that it doesnt have an in-flight datalink
however
development of a block 2/version 2/whateverthehellitscalled 2 is supposed to begin this year and thats going to add a datalink and replace obsolete components and even a new seeker

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noice, but even better seeker?, honestly i thought they would rather work on the fuel or motor to further increase range

Except it was in development and entered JASDF inventory before IRIS-T

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How does it do LOAL, or are all the parameters calculated just during launch and it goes to where it thinks it should be?

Just like ARH without DL. Missile gets fed information about target current heading speed Etc, and based on that it goes on intercept path. Also remember that IRIS-T is considered rather short range missile, so DL is not that important, as there is a limited amount of deviations that can happen.

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ig it either gets the last known location or a predicted location of the target and the seeker looks in that direction
its got a 90° gimbal limit so it would see the target rather quickly

new/better tech ig. iterations always work like that

also
Block 2 is NOT FCAAM. thats a different venture

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I haven’t seen any physical model of the datalink receiver on the IRIS-T, which would be needed for it to have datalink, so that’s true. Any future iteration would need this antenna.

Here you can see MICA’s datalink receiver
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MBDA stating it has rear receiver
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Here’s AIM-120A, you can see that the datalink receiver is in the tail of the missile.

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So this would be something to look out for with any new IRIS-T air-to-air iterations.

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