They got nerf over nerf.
They ain t as good as many think anymore
Strv122 was first place then second pace leos2a7v/hu.
But they lost a lot in performance.
Not to mention germany having only 1 good leopard.
An no viable cas fighter
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Great so Germany has one good thing which is a ridiculously nerfed tank. They must be truly op then
Turret basket, nato hump, grossly underperforming armor, Ammunition from 2001.
2020s missile with the lockrange of a 70s manpad
CAS plane with glorified hellfires
ARB fighter with 6 incredibly mid amraams guided by a 13.3 radar.
Yep truly sounds like a force to be reckoned with
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Turret height limitations at the back is another nerf.
Heli targeting noz being a thing another.
Cause they arent implementing all variants
Broken DM models. We were promised a new DM 2 years ago
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Its an interception spaa. Its great there.
Its not a plane killer yes.
But its not 12.7 either.+China was already pronised an additional spaa
Most of these aren’t even true. And the DM73 round would do little even if it was added
Yea so why does China always get everything late? Spall liners, heli fnf missiles, planes, and now even SPAA
Well then it shouldnt be a problem for you to tell me which arent true?
yes,german is op ,very op…
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It is realistic and a much needed nerf.
It’s armor is very good, especially turret armor. And in hull down positions it is very strong. Especially paired with the tanks good gun depression.
Which is over performing. And also the reload rate is over performing too. Loader fatigue should definitely be added.
Still the few of the strongest in game.
And it isn’t that bad. Look at Chinese CAS for example.
Yes it has an average radar but at the same time it has insane flight characteristics and good enough missiles. Look at the su30sm
Win rate doesnt say anything about vehicle strength
Its 100% not realistic, destroying a bit of metal doesnt put the entire engine for turret rotation made to move a 20+ ton turret out of service. Also its implementation is insanely selective but nice to see you agree that its just a nerf.
Still grossly underperforming compared to irl
Not really? If anything its actually underperforming against ERA.
Sure if we get reload times that are not dependent on shilling 2300 GE on an ace crew or grind 1.3 milion RP and 1.2 SL
Doesnt make what i said wrong?
Its still artificially gimped? Chinese CAS being bad doesnt change that fact.
You mean the plane with better radar, better missiles, double the Fox3s and better IR missiles?
So i dont really see where i was wrong and looking at your answers you didnt see it either.
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There is an accepted bug report about these turret baskets being 2 parts, one for the horizontal drive, one to hold the crew and some equipment. As a gaijin classic, this woun’t come into effect for the next year.
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Lol
Don’t argue with him, remember? He already argued with you under that Mi-28NM post before. His stats got exposed back then and everyone laughed at him.
I know but if someone tells me im wrong i always want for them to point out where im wrong.
Rarely happens but i take every opportunity to fix my mistakes
It’s the best the game could do.
The performance of leopards in a certain conflict doesn’t really show the high expectations you have set for this vehicle
6 seconds is still 6 seconds. And if you’ve played until you’ve reached top tier you’ll have those crew levels.
I agree with buffing iris-t.
Make a bug report then
Su30sm is so much slower and it can’t really dodge anything
Yea ok
I agree with implementing this change then. But turret baskets themselves are not a bad mechanic
He’s just like that Arvislav (or whatever his name is) - both are notorious trolls on the forums. They leave inflammatory comments on every post. Just block them and move on.