They introduced SBU and Kh-38 to make players angry and hopeless, they then “sell us” the solution which are the new SAMs, increase the hype cycle and bring back players but do so in a nerfed state, and then release SEAD to give these SAMs their untapped potential.
But it seems step 2 has backfired horribly, they seriously expected players to accept these AAs in such a horrid and pathetic state, all while buffing Kh-38 in the process lmao. Gaijin plans things ahead of time with the goal of stretching and extending the lifetime of the game, which is honestly okay but Gaijin being Gaijin…
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i get it ,but im also actually saying maybe after recent tests they see they need to to publish arm missiles(something like agm88) after realising how strong missiles are. maybe they are working on it before holiday break. it feels less realistic they will drop an update with powerfull spaa"s and no anti radiation missiles and keep some nations being bombarded becasue all of their powerfull sides are cas.
but ofcourse these are just maybe
Nah.
The time between the introduction of the kh-38MT and these new systems is way too long.
I think the KH-38MT issue is just a matter of negligence in following their own supposed standards, an almost unbelievable lack of ability or willingness to respond to a crisis and feeling embarrassed they’ve been caught with their hands in the cookie jar.
The other possible explanations are even worse for gaijin, so who knows.
I can say this though, I’ve not seen such… resentment and anger over something like these new sam systems in a long time. I guess this leads me back to the inability to respond to a crisis.
The missile shouldn’t be in the game to begin with as it doesn’t exist outside of a mockup. Not a single person has been able to show a functional missile besides a picture of it being mounted on a plane from a brochure given out during a Chinese airshow in 2024. Even then that doesn’t prove that its a functional missile.
Hammers exist, KH38MT does not.
Anyways, this is off-topic again.
To bring it back into topic, are the new SAMs able to even detect the KH38ML/MT while they’re in the air? Its very rare to see the MT get intercepted in game, the only time you see any sort of interception is when you pop smoke at the right time, but SPAA doesn’t seem to shoot them down for the most part.
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They already said ARMs are coming and are actively being worked on.
The argument that ARMs are needed to balance these systems is pretty stupid though, thr Kh-38ML/T and the AASM’s all outrange every new syztem added, even if fixed.
The whole point of adding these systems was allegedly to “fix the overperformance of CAS in ground battles” but as it stands, they arent even going to have a significant impact on the lower end munitions currently in the meta like AGM-65.
The only jet actually negatively effected by these new additions are the Eurofighters, and only cuz they refuse to give them Brimstone II/III, or F&F Brimstone I.
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Experience in custom battles doesn’t show.
Looks like Germany will be left with no CAS to speak of once again, at least the Swiss F-18 will get some AGMs… and probably the reason why it was given its full ordinance.
https://youtu.be/vb2zBKeSka0 , if only the IRIS-T SLM would be implemented in the game like this, man.
Then my point stil stands.
No it doesn’t as I have experience with Pantsir, which is something you tried to use to deny my claims, all the while my claim initially used other people’s videos as evidence.
I guess that Pantsir missing at <10km of range is a hoax or, at the very least, definite proof of skill issues from the operator.
Sorry but I cannot believe your claim when hard evidence shows otherwise.
According to statistic you never played with Pantsir which is the only fact that applies for talking from experience.
And yes, of you’re missing a target that is in 10km range while using Pantsir it’s mostly your fault.
Trying to justify the addition of Pantsir is unacceptable.
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Experience is not only tied to public matches, you should know that.
Again, handwaving arguments that doesn’t suit you by using “skill issue” is funny.
Pantsir was a great addition, others not getting something similar is a shame though.
Pantsir was terrible addition when no other nation had similar systems, especially when most planes didn’t event have RWR that could detect K-Band.
Even now Gaijin nerfed upcoming Spaa’s so bad that they cant even perform at their 30 percent capacity compare to real life.
Like it or not Pantsir is more than capable of dealing with enemy units even from +13Km’s, if you can’t do it then it’s on you, not on system.
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Heard enough… Nerf IRIS T make the missile Mach 1 and let in only pull 10 G with a max range of 4 km and Buff Pantsir
if u want the truth its going to be better than irl in game , why ? cus everything its going to intercept in game is going to be supersonic most of the times , irl it was mainly used on subsonic cruise missiles (mach 0.5-0.85) that fly in a straight line or in a easily predictable pattern. what u can argue about is that its lacking in terms of kinematics. but i thin they will buff it later on , even with a kinematic nerf it will still be good.
heard enough Buff all the vehicles and Planes on the Russian Techtree and give Pantsir immortality for realistic balance reasons.
Remove every Ammo for the western Tech trees
and Buff KH38 even more
and last but not least Nerf EF 2000 and Iris t and nerf everything for a 5th time
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Ito and Flakrad have awful radar elevation, and even if they manage to lock the 38, it’s a dice roll whether the VT1 will proxy
ADATS is not allowed to lock the Mach 2 missile coming straight at it, and it’s not allowed to cue its IR lock to a radar track anyway
Otomatic is even less likely to proxy on the Kh38 than the VT1, but to be fair its proxy fuze rarely works against any munitions
Type 81 missiles also lose track of Kh38 once they burn out
It’s almost as if bias is real… nah we need a couple more years of 90% russian queues and Kh38 + Pantsir + helis immune to IR missiles before that’s a possibility
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its funny you call it “it only used against cruise missiles”, “its better in dev server right now than it is in real life” maybe you see it is been used against cruise missiles ,only becasue russia knows if they send a fighter jets to iris t’s envolope,it is not coming back.
please dont cluther this forum we don’t really need someone trying to prove it is bad with no evidence at all.
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