JAGM is useful because of the amount you can carry, its still better than 6x Mavs or 4 on the F/A-18C Late.
Oh, i thought you were talking about the cruise missile sorry.
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No problem, also i’ve seen Cruise missiles fly in super low altitude to avoid being intercepted.
CCRP tossing, GPS bombs and guided IR weapons will still be powerful enough to take it out, it won’t be undefeatable. All it takes is to fly low, place a POI on the spawns and go for a low pass with guns, bombs or rockets and it will be the end of it.
It all depends on how Gaijin models the IR homing phase of the SLM, planes will have plenty of time to dive for cover when the SLM is on its radar guidance. Helis like the Ka-52 also get CCRP rockets so indirect fire is a thing.
SLM will shine on flat maps where there isn’t a lot of cover for planes but we’ll see.
I vote for the option that any Tank can “place” AAs. So no one needs to die and respawn in an AA just to counter the CAS.
It will be different though.
With tossing a bomb against something like a Pantsir, you pull up release a bomb and then dive back down agai, the Pantsir may fire at you during your climb, but the moment you dive down, they’ll lose LoS and the missile will be defeated.
But against the SLM, when you dive back down again the missile wont lose LoS, unless you physically place a hill or something between you and the seeker. Also, at ranges you can usually accurately throw a bomb, you are well within the LSZ of the missile. I doubt you’ll be throwing a bomb further than 15-20km away which is within range of the seeker.
The really big questions are:
Will the IRIS-T SLMs be vulnerable to pre-flaring?
If no, how hard are they to defeat using flares?
I still think there will be a need for some CAS buffs here and there. Like now there is 0 excuse for no Brimstone 2s (even if they remain SAL) and GPS stand-off weapons need to be added to everyones top tier, which is basically just the Typhoon at the moment without.
Well they already play with Russia at top tier 90% of the time soo
So only Germany gets new SPAA? Lol figures
SLAMRAAM for US was in the teaser and Spyder has been on the leaklist for Israel and Japan is apparently getting a Type 81 buff or alt version with ARH
China and Sweden already have devblogs for theirs.
France looks like it isnt getting anything but ItO is fine for now
Looks like Britain and Italy are the nations really getting screwed this major
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U even watchded? US, sweden, china all already got confirmed
May i ask u why u think CAS need to buffed? Why do u think it needs to be even stronger? It already can not be defeated unless someone died first and respawned in an AA.
Because not all CAS is equal.
bare in mind the Typhoon has no FNF weapon like the AGM-65, KH-38MT or AASM and only has Brimstone 1s with a 10-15km range and require the target to be painted with a laser.
Using one of those vs IRIS-T SLM will be impossible.
Especially given the Typhoon never used the Brimstone 1 only the 2, it being artificially nerfed to such a degree sucks. Let alone the fact the Brimstone is an FnF weapon but that gets denied too
Also. I want better A2G for ASB just as much, if not more than in GRB. Tank vs tank gamepaly sucks and is a buggy unbalanced mess. But we are denied even a fraction of some aircraft A2G performance like on the Tornado Gr4 in air modes because of tanks in GRB.
So if IRIS-T SLM finally means I can kill convoys in ASB with Brimstones, then awesome.
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Hm, but that dosnt really address the fact that the CAS in GRB still can not be encountered on first contract and that someone has to die first and then also respawn in an AA that has the only purpose of countering the CAS and ist afterwards useless.
So to counter CAS and go back into a tank its multiple steps.
- U die in your tank on first CAS encounter
- U respawn in AA
- U need to place your “launcher module”
- u need to find the CAS
- U need to shot at it and hit it
- After CAS is dead ure useless and need to J out to respawn in a Tank again
- Respawn in a Tank again
For the CAS it only require this:
- U spawn in CAS
- U find Tanks on ground
- U kill tanks or dont
- U spawn in a Tank again
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I hope not at least for a few updates, that’s the entire point of the update. I’m sure Gaijin will monitor the performance of the SLM and go from there.
Im sorry, iive been waiting 9 months for them to actually add Brimstones. Sucks playing without them. We now get 40km SAM, its time for them to add Brimstones
That’s why we need separate spawns, even Gaijin acknowledged that you should first spawn SPAA, they are not gonna perform well in the maps we have.
What we need is: The Option for every Tank to spawn/place SPAA. THIS! Is what would solve a ton of frustration and make it actually fair on first encounter! And then u also dont need to die first, u dont need bigger Maps, u dont need to do much at all then. Just let every Tank “place” an SPAA within like 10seconds. Maybe even add Spawn points to it, like the Atom Bomber!
if i understood it right on the dev stream effective range will be 12km like what
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SLM is huge man, Paveways 4 and GBU-39 are going to eat this thing like it’s nothing. I wouldn’t be too worried about it. But Brimstone 2 would be nicer to have though, Brimstone 1 is just too slow…
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GBU-39 yes. Paveway IV? not really. You’ll be within range on every drop.
What is needed is SAL brimstone 2 and maybe GPS or GPS+SAL Spear-3 to give us something like GBU-39. But I still think its time to start pushing for MMW
Would also give the Typhoon some of its missing A2G performance in ASB.
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