IRIS-T SL - The Surface Launched variants

I highly doubt that IRIS-T SLS will be added before 2026, which is when the boxer IRIS-T SLS prototype is planned to be produced.

MBDA and Kongsberg withdrew from BODLUV 2020 leaving only Diehl to provide a short-medium range air defence system
Gonna be just SLM or a mix of SLS and SLM

or who knows maybe they invest in SLX

the boxer SLS bugs me design-wise.

I am not a fan of these multi vehicle AA setups NATO is adamant in using, and I dont understand why they dont look at nations that have actually been making SHORAD’s this whole time and iterate off that.

4-6 IRIS-T’s ready to fire and no gun is dubious imo, and the answer of “its supposed to work in tandem with a skyranger 30!” seems odd as well. If its going to work with a skyranger, just use something like a salvo system or VLS cells, but more-so than that, an AIO system with a gun and missiles would be preferable imo. Not because I dont think specialist vehicles should exist, but because in SHORAD, its kind of important to have options at the ready that dont require you to always have perfect battlefield clarity and perfect positioning.

One thing i do like is the use of multiple AESA radars for maximal coverage though.

its not done yet…

and layered air defence exists for a reason but i would expect it to receive some form of a cannon

Norway is funding some 60% or so of an SLM battery for Ukraine (aka re-paying Germany) with 1bln NOK putting the price at around 140mln euros for the whole battery

Bulgaria is joining the club

AIM-9X has yet to be integrated. IRIS-T is the currently supported missile.
the plan is to integrate AIM-9X later as IRIS-T SLS production currently is primarily focused on supplying Ukraine.

Supported missile for what? NOMADS literally only advertises 9XB2, doesnt mention IRIS-T anywhere

all tests firings were only done yet with the IRIS-T, no official reports of the 9x yet

did you watch the video at all?

tbh not all of it but why is there advertising only 9XB2?

Norway is no longer use F-16, and only use F-35A.
so they replace IRIS-T to AIM-9X because effeciency of supply.

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definitely is IRIS-T tho

because they’re not going to sell it with IRIS-T.
i’m assuming that they chose IRIS-T for testing because its easier for them to get permission for that from the manufacturer.


so uhmmm
104% hitrate lmao
supposedly the debris of one intercept destroyed another missile
the brackets are for missions/engagements.
big shame that production is only at ~500 missiles per year

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Given that two development contracts are actually financed after the three-year concept studies have been completed.
Furthernore Germany would be very unpredictable in this case, because there will be major German involvement in both projects.
However, I imagine that it will mainly depend on which air defence systems Germany purchases in the future. In addition to IRIS-T SLS and SLM, which are being procured and some are already being delivered, the planned integration of IRIS-T SLM in the VLS of the German Navy’s frigates makes the procurement of IRIS-T SLX very likely. It would then only make sense to also procure the HYDEF solution, which is to be based on the IRIS-T technology.
Should Germany procure SAMP/T by then (which seems relatively unlikely at the present time) or should the Diehl solution be significantly inferior to HYDIS2, then the MBDA solution would also be conceivable for Germany.

Another option would be to merge the two projects after the end of the concept phase. Even though I would be in favour of keeping both running in order to have competition, it would be typical for European projects to merge them.

The US is desperately trying to kill European missile production after the screw up in the 80’s that lead to the development of EU alternatives to US missiles. Its genuinly disgusting the stuff they pull regarding missile integration, with the US delaying the integration of the Meteor in the F-35 to try to kill the EU’s dominance in BVR missiles among western countries (qualitatively at least) while trying to limit/prevent integration of EU 5th gen fox 2’s as well. Also seems theyre pulling similar things with their JAGM.

You can always trust the US to sacrifice capabilities and, in this case, by extension potentially lives for unethical and anti-competitive market practices lmao.

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Dont forget the F-35 needs a special code every month, otherwise it bricks itself until a code is input

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Yup, it’s always “free market” with the US/US corporations until they have a local monopoly…

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