Char 25t is 8.0, but Turm III is 8.3 …
Of course it should be 9.3 …
I’ve seen enough Char 25t to 13.0
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I 100% agree with it going to 8.7.
Past 8.7 and its lack of LRF / round starts showing.
Falcon APHE 30mm is severely underrated with Turm III, despite the relatively low ammo capacity.
You can kill Russian MBTs from the side relatively easily.
Cupola shots against American MBTs (Like M60) is also extremely potent.
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What even the odds of meeting the IS-7 and OBJ 279?
id say just add its 3 plane STAB and make it 8.7 as its gun is still a L7A3 105 with 350MM pen on a wonky shell
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in GFAB, there are some around, when you’re in their BR range you’ll meet them. Not nearly as bad as when it was first introduced, entire squads of them roaming unchecked killing everything.
Oh yes, the auto loaded tank with a 30mm strapped onto if with a stabiliser most definitely suffers. 8.3 is a ridiculous rating for it to be at. I think the only people defending it at this point are the people who own it. Pay to win garbage
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30mm 😂
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30mm may be worse than 20mm. Less bullets
I don’t think 30mm is worse than 20mm since 30mm APHE does way more damage / can penetrate way more tanks than what 20mm HVAP (APCR) would ever do, even with more ammo.
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Bruh the french coax 20mm shatters even on BMPs because HVAP. I’d take the 30mm with way less ammo over it any day.
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Lame take. Plenty of times you can shoot it and deal no damage due to how empty it is inside. Like really you can even bait someone with the corner of your frontal plate and receive no damage. I find myself dying more to this tank than killing it because guess when, all tanks 0.3 br lower than turm III (8.0) are inferior to it. Less survivable, less firepower, slower, manual reload. This is no 8.3 material. There are even 8.7 mbts that have a hard time competing with turm III, like amx-30B2.
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Yeah, nah. Doesn’t belong at 8.3 at all. Sure, u can use weak armour as an excuse but it has 2 fantastic armaments and is fully stabilised. Shreds anything light within seconds.
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Germany winning rate at that br is absolutely horrible lol somehow having TURM 3 still can’t help them win matches, up to 9.0 also another br that average losing 7 out of 10 matches.
Well it’s playable unlike Leopard 1 with similarly horrible armor and god awful reload speed, filled with 8.7-9.0 tank spam these days.
Hey, I just bought this thing on sales and won’t play it until the sales madness ends.
Can we postpone the BR increase until I play my share of games with it later this year? I mean you can bring up the issue during the October 2026 br changes I will support you then. But until then let me farm a couple nukes with it.
that stems from german teams having no clue how to play un armoured tanks with mobility, afterall the closest you get is the puma in the tech tree, and the ru251 for the premium side of things.
really germany just needs the sp1c and indian panzer at 6.7 would help massively.
Leopard 1 is just abysmal but u also have the problem of T58 spam which is also questionably placed at 8.3
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To be fair nothing else at 7.3-8.7 for germany is really good besides the Turm III, PZH2000, Gepard, and DF105 / CLOVIS.
Leopard I is overtiered by 0.3 BR, M48A2 C and M48A2 G A2 are mediocre, Marders are abysmal at 7.7 and 8.0, the RakJpz 2 is unusable for the most part.
Their support vehicles are good but their MBTs at that BR are lackluster to say the least.