Yeah it probably is
That don’t mean I agree with those decisions tho
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It is a buff since it can now engage helicopters and certain aircraft much easier than before. If anything it’ll become more effective.
Just because you won’t use it, doesn’t mean its a bad addition
I personally think it will make HSTV-L a more versatile vehicle, having rapid reload HE-VT shell will make quick work of the helicopters at closer range
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Russians must really hate me with their false-flagging posts again.
2S38 is inferior, and HSTVL didn’t change its overall lethality.
Keep hating on HSTVL to prove everyone here correct.
Keep downplaying the 2S38 so its stays at its BR thats what a russian would do
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But it did. It is now much more lethal against any aircraft or helicopter that is near the battle.
I doubt that it will go up in BR, but it is clearly a better tank than it was.
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I’m starting to notice a pattern here…
Every time you are cornered, you resort to “Oh but whatever_nations_mains must hate me and playerbase for defending opposite_of_whatever_nations_mains”
It’s a bad habit and it’s really getting old…
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@Iluminas
Your post defending 2S38 and Russia claiming that Russia can make a vehicle anywhere close to as powerful as HSTVL for a fraction of the cost…
lol 2S38 has half the acceleration, is a tad larger, 50mm worse penning round; and for those that care the 2S38 spalls armor half as well.
Me: 2S38 should go to 10.3.
“Stop downplaying!”
@TyphoonCro
My posts criticizing Russian equipment and being indifferent about HSTVL’s HE-VT were getting false-flagged, only Russians or 2S38 fans would do that.
Us HSTVL fans being silenced is a bad thing, and having a post that defends people attempting to silence us is not a good look.
Notice how none of the people that flagged posts here are posting themselves. They’re hiding cause they know their takes are bad.
I wasn’t “cornered” anymore than you were, because the people flagging my posts aren’t posting here.
They aer saying that the 2S38 is currently undertiered, and that you want it to stay lower (by saying that it isn’t as good as people say) because you are a Russian main.
You never said that here.
Also good job on deleting your previous comment in this thread.
I was forced to delete it cause it was false-flagged.
Also if they’re going to claim being American makes you a Russian main, then their posts are even worse.
It may be worse (big emphasis on may since HSTV-L is a cancelled project) IRL, but in game? 2S38 (especially at 10.0 and in downtiers) shreds anything with APFSDS. Hell, a well placed shot would very likely disable even a Leopard 2A4 or Abrams
But you will consider this as defending the 2S38 even though I don’t really care that anymore since I posted twice in “Upcoming BR changes” topic and it fell on deaf ears…
HSTV-L will greatly benefit from the HE-VT shell, making it even more menacing since it can now destroy air targets
EDIT: I never would have expected you, of all the people, to hate the addition of HE-VT shell. You, who vehemently defends the HSTV-L as a greatest thing since the sliced bread
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You’re clearly thinking of someone else cause I’ve literally stated that take alongside Strf 9040C, cause in cross-analysis of those tanks and the tanks they face, that conclusion is attained.
I posted a number of times to move 2S38 to 10.3. As it’s half accelerating as HSTVL with a 50mm worse penning round while half the mass [half the armor spalling for those that care].
Whenever Abrams gets its 50mm turret ring fixed, I’ll consider Strf 9040C back to 10.0 as it would no longer pen that.
Also I don’t hate it, never did. I’m indifferent cause it won’t impact its BR whether its there or not, nor its primary purpose as a light tank.
No, I’m not thinking of someone else. Get off your high horse and take the blame for once. “To err is human” they say.
You did it here two or three times already
No, I didn’t. Someone protected 2S38 from my criticism that it’s not anywhere close to HSTVL [an 11.3 light tank, meaning 2S38 is not 11.0 capable, with the option of not close to 11.0 in capability].
No where did I say anything other than that.
Where have you criticized the 2S38 in this topic?
2S38 is inferior
This?
EDIT:
No where did I say anything other than that.
You haven’t directed it towards me but you have to few others
(@)Iluminas
Your post defending 2S38 and Russia
Now read the full post; their post was comparing 2S38 to HSTVL.
And all I stated was 2S38 is inferior to HSTVL.
I didn’t say it was inferior to Puma, BMP-2M, Desert Warrior, etc.
All I stated is that 2S38 is inferior to HSTVL, which is true.
You cannot make a tank like HSTVL that costs as much as the 2S38 costs, you won’t get sales [and 2S38 still doesn’t have sales despite being rather affordable].
HSTVL will be the highest BR auto-cannon light tank cause no other country was dumb enough to build a modern 32.365hp/t light tank with a 76mm auto-cannon.
Give the 2S38 a 680hp engine and a round that pens a bit more and yep, that can go to 11.3, but Russia ain’t making a 680hp 2S38 and they aren’t making a better APFSDS round.
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I hope Gaijin could add the other one with 60 rounds, 26 rounds to take APFSDS and HEVT is too short
Wait, hold up…that exists?
Now that’s a good critic post, credit is where credit is due
Inferior? Yes it is but not by a long shot
Comparing it to something like Begleit, 2S38 obviously has advantage thanks to APFSDS
One thing to consider is that 2S38 has higher pen per the diameter of shell
2S38s APFSDS is faster just ever so slightly
does it also aquired IRST？