How are the vampires at 8.0?

[rainy2000]

@Aegis270

And which it is is entirely dependant on if it can find any planes that have cashed in their energy to fight.

A6M5s but jet version.

[Mingaumeow9]

@Aegis270

It can still see the engine. So long as it see the engine, it’s technically “rear aspect” and wil track. What’s confusing about this?

Because it followed a straight line. There’s nothing confusing and that’s what I have been trying to say

@Aegis270

Homing missiles work by acquring the target (Be it by IR, optics or RADAR signature). They then, by comparing how the target moves between intervals, figures out the targets speed and direction. By knowing how fast it can go, it then attempts to pull the lead it needs in order to intercept that target at a specific point of it’s trajectory.

It doesn’t just follow in it’s wake like it’s following a trail of breadcrumbs. As long as it can see the target (Whatever that means for the missile, in this case, can see a heat source hot enough to track IE the engine), it will figure out where the target is going and move to intercept.

This isn’t Hollywood, where a missile will just follow a plane around like a serial killer in a horror movie.

Yes I know. But the argument of outturning is much less efficient when the missile is not doing a Topgun move and following directly behind. This is exactly what I’m saying

@Aegis270

But what if you aren’t fast enough or at long enough range to dodge the missile kinematically? You can still dodge it acrobatically. The AIM-9B can only pull 10G at it’s most, and it can’t pull that for long. A Vampire (That isn’t locking up from excessive speed) can easily pull more than that, meaning if you just turn hard, the missile will fail to pull enough lead to keep up with you and sail harmlessly past.

Unless you have crew with level over 40, the pilot will black out and you will remain vulnerable to another missile, as most people don’t usually carry a single one. To “unblackout” you need to pull negative g, try to do that with the crappy hydraulic controls and huge wings that want to go up desperately.

[Normandy_Corsair]

7.7 is better than 8.0

[Caernarvon02]

still far too high for it when Thunderjet is 7.0 and Banshee is 7.3

[Normandy_Corsair]

F-84B is 7.0 cause it’s a F-84B and not a F-84G, F2H-2 is just undertiered and should be 7.7 but the playerbase doesnt like hearing that

[Aegis270]

@Mingaumeow9

Because it followed a straight line. There’s nothing confusing and that’s what I have been trying to say

It did not “follow a straight line”. It acquired the La-200, and started to pull lead to hit him. Because he was going so slowly, it did not need to pull very far to hit him. It looks like a straight line, but it isn’t.

@Mingaumeow9

Yes I know. But the argument of outturning is much less efficient when the missile is not doing a Topgun move and following directly behind. This is exactly what I’m saying

If it is a direct rear aspect shot, you will have to pull harder for longer to dodge it. But that’s entirely within the abilities of a Vampire.

@Mingaumeow9

Unless you have crew with level over 40, the pilot will black out and you will remain vulnerable to another missile, as most people don’t usually carry a single one. To “unblackout” you need to pull negative g, try to do that with the crappy hydraulic controls and huge wings that want to go up desperately.

Press “W” on your keyboard. It will neg G you for a fraction of a second, preventing you from blacking out if you do it consistently enough without seriously affecting your pull.

By the time you reach jets (And especially very agile ones), you should have a pilot with a maxed G-Tolerance and Stamina. If you don’t, I’d highly suggest you play some planes that are less prone to blacking out until they are maxed. Or get the expert qualification, which boosts each skill by 3. Bit pricey, but at jet tiers it starts to become more and more mandatory.

Also, you’re clearly playing a stock jet. Once you get the G-suit, you’ll black out much less in turns no matter what level your pilot is.

[Herojure24]

What the hell are you on? I have accidentally dodged 9bs I was not even aware of in way less maneouvrable planes. The only plane I ever had issues with dodgin is the vautour (that bus cannot turn to save it’s life).

If the vampire player has a smidge of awareness the 9b will not hit.

[Mingaumeow9]

Have you NEVER heard of a “bad launch”??

[Herojure24]

Yeah. But what does that have to do with what I am talking about? The 9b cannot pull shit and even in a straight perfect launch all you have to do is pull to the side slightly.

[AydanL44_Hunter]

We got someone calling AIM-9B op before GTA 6 it’s crazy

[Mingaumeow9]

You guys call the Aim-9b trash because all you guys do is shoot them like Navy pilots were doing in Vietnam
You cannot expect the missile to hit if you wanna shoot a near-perpendicular target

[Mingaumeow9]

Yeah if you shoot it at 2km out

[Herojure24]

Even if you shoot it 500m out it’s not hard to dodge. But at that range guns should be preferred.

[AydanL44_Hunter]

We’re not calling it trash, we’re calling you bad for dying to it in this specific plane
You seem to think it’s a R-73

[Mingaumeow9]

You need to lead your plane to make it aerodynamically easier for the sidewinder to hit the target if you want it to hit a turning object

[Mingaumeow9]

I did not die in the Vampire, I don’t even own it

[Herojure24]

Have you even used the 9b? It has a caged seeker you cannot do that.

[Josephs_Piano]

@Mingaumeow9

The Aim-9b is only rear aspect at launch. The seeker head will calculate a straight line while accounting for the target’s speed,…

Uh… no - the seeker tries to point directly at the heat source, ALWAYS.

There may be more advanced missiles that can “lead” a target, but the AIM-9B isn’t one of them!!

[AydanL44_Hunter]

Hold on, this is getting super funny

[Herojure24]

We should have checked his stats earljer. Go do it now someone