+1. Hopefully Flakrad and Ito 90 will receive it soon.
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I hope so
This will be a long range master if implemented correctly.
Finally Germany can have something that doesn’t need to be under ultra specific conditions to hit
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Why even downgrade this? It’s got less range than a Pantsir but is much more faster as an upside. Perfect for pesky helos.
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Lol anything to get an upgrade
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It can work as a anti tank weapon as well. Which would give the flakrad and others some way to defend themselves.
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How much armor can it penetrate?
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I will try to find sources but most possibly the anti armour performance was never tested.
If possible, the projectile mass, speed, dimensions and composition could be used to determine probable anti armour performance for this missile
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The main saving grace of this missile upgrade, as compared to the IRIST-SLS or similar, is that this is CLOS/(option of SACLOS) for all up to the terminal phase of flight.
After which.
It relies on the IR seeker to guide the KKV (kinetic kill vehicle).
Leading to two things:.
- Efficient energy and target lead management
- Allows reload of one of the ONLY two launch tubes while the missile is in self guidance.
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I can only hope the gaijin also adds the radar guided mode for most command guided SAMs as they have IRL.
as optical guidance like we have in game rn on all except the Tor is only the secondary method of guidance
It does seem thought that germany may have hope after all without needing the immobile patriot SAM system.
After the HFK/KV, the MEADS system can be used at around 13.0 i believe.
IRIS-T SLM could be a good option for 13.X
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Albeit a bit too much of an airspace denial system… with HARMS and SEAD capable aircraft… this will be needed even if a bit later
more sources and information:
https://arc.aiaa.org/action/doSearch?AllField=Bayern-CHemie&startPage=0&pageSize=20
Considering the constant issues with the Satstreaks, I wonder if another “Hitile” weapon would fare well in WT…
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Fair enough but also considering that APFSDS rounds do so much damage to aircraft (usually lol) so a 150mm kinetic missile would do some equal amounts
apparently Kinetic anti armour performance was also an intended role. i updated the fields so it might be worth taking a look.
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btw @Miraz05 what do you think of the 100G overloads lol?
plus as i found later on… it does carry a ~5Kg warhead so it should be pretty lethal against both air and ground…
I guess it isn’t going to come soon. We might see it when other 100G missiles are added(Iris-t etc.)
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SLM with a range of 40km is unlikely to come into play. Especially because the radar and launcher are separate. What can be added at some point, however, is IRIS-T SLS on a Boxer basis. The development, which is due to be completed by 2028, was approved and funded by the German parliament in January 2024.
Although IRIS-T SLS only has a range of 12 km, it has a very good IR seeker head that is virtually unflareable and the missile itself can carry far more than 100g. In addition, there is a DataLink that enables lock on after launch, so that the target can still be changed in flight, can be fired while travelling at full speed and NLOS targets can be locked that have perhaps only been reconnoitred via radar or the FIRST system.
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IRIST-SLS is at least LOAL-capable, so that thanks to DataLink you can at least change the target for a certain time or even lock the target after launch. Unfortunately, I have not yet found a source that indicates up to what distance this works.
And IRIST-SLS is also the system most likely to be added after FlaRakRad. It also only has a range of 12 km, but the development of a Boxer-based FlaRakPz with a turret carrying 4 missiles, an AESA radar and a FIRST system was commissioned by the German parliament last month (January 2024) and thus also financed, while MEADS has not been completed. In addition, the radar and launch vehicle are separate, which also speaks against implementation in the game. The only disadvantage is that the first test model will not be delivered to the troops until 2028 and I don’t know if there is a working prototype anywhere to be seen before then, which as far as I know is unfortunately a prerequisite for Gaijin to add a vehicle to the game.
https://www.hartpunkt.de/parlamentarische-befassung-im-januar-erwartet/