more sources and information:
https://arc.aiaa.org/action/doSearch?AllField=Bayern-CHemie&startPage=0&pageSize=20
Considering the constant issues with the Satstreaks, I wonder if another “Hitile” weapon would fare well in WT…
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Fair enough but also considering that APFSDS rounds do so much damage to aircraft (usually lol) so a 150mm kinetic missile would do some equal amounts
apparently Kinetic anti armour performance was also an intended role. i updated the fields so it might be worth taking a look.
btw @Miraz05 what do you think of the 100G overloads lol?
plus as i found later on… it does carry a ~5Kg warhead so it should be pretty lethal against both air and ground…
I guess it isn’t going to come soon. We might see it when other 100G missiles are added(Iris-t etc.)
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SLM with a range of 40km is unlikely to come into play. Especially because the radar and launcher are separate. What can be added at some point, however, is IRIS-T SLS on a Boxer basis. The development, which is due to be completed by 2028, was approved and funded by the German parliament in January 2024.
Although IRIS-T SLS only has a range of 12 km, it has a very good IR seeker head that is virtually unflareable and the missile itself can carry far more than 100g. In addition, there is a DataLink that enables lock on after launch, so that the target can still be changed in flight, can be fired while travelling at full speed and NLOS targets can be locked that have perhaps only been reconnoitred via radar or the FIRST system.
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IRIST-SLS is at least LOAL-capable, so that thanks to DataLink you can at least change the target for a certain time or even lock the target after launch. Unfortunately, I have not yet found a source that indicates up to what distance this works.
And IRIST-SLS is also the system most likely to be added after FlaRakRad. It also only has a range of 12 km, but the development of a Boxer-based FlaRakPz with a turret carrying 4 missiles, an AESA radar and a FIRST system was commissioned by the German parliament last month (January 2024) and thus also financed, while MEADS has not been completed. In addition, the radar and launch vehicle are separate, which also speaks against implementation in the game. The only disadvantage is that the first test model will not be delivered to the troops until 2028 and I don’t know if there is a working prototype anywhere to be seen before then, which as far as I know is unfortunately a prerequisite for Gaijin to add a vehicle to the game.
https://www.hartpunkt.de/parlamentarische-befassung-im-januar-erwartet/
altho upon more research, the ITO wont get it since this was a purely german trial run iirc
To be fair, the FlaRakRad also got the VT1, so its only really fair to give the ITo the HFK/KV then
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Its historically innacurate.
The ITO never used nor tested the HFK/KV Missile.
The country of testing was entitrely different.
Its not about the VT-1 as that missile is a joke tbh.
What the ITO and all rolands need is a radar based guidance system that they all historically had.
The HFK is purely a German innovation.
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The VT-1 is amazing now. It used to be complete garbage when they added the new physic model for SACLOS missiles but now its awesome
Germany never used VT-1.
HFK has every right to be added to the Itos as long as the VT-1 exists in the German tech tree.
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Yes I agree. But there is always the option to remove the VT-1 from the German FlaRakRad and replace it with HFK/KV
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+1, Would bring the flarakrad’s capabilities more in line with the other top tier SPAAs.
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id love to have the HFK on this ngl… would make for a great SPAA:
Would this thread be the right one to talk about RM-5 as well? Its kinda the contender project to HFK/KV, also reaches Mach 5, also has an effective range of 12km (though max range is stated at 16km) and also fits the Roland launch tubes
Main difference are the single stage design (compared to the HFKs subcaliber second stage that would reduce drag), presence of a proximity fuze and using the standard Roland guidance system instead of the F&F INS to IR guidance
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yep lol
although last i checked it didnt get past the design phase?
i might be wrong though.
otherwise im all for it lol
I’m not sure
some hypersonic AA missile was test fired, but I’m not sure which it is. Visually it looks close to the RM5 both in terms of general shape and the rectangular rudders.
It was called HFK on MBDA’s website, but its certainly not HFK/KV while MBDA fits the producers of RM5 (Aerospatiale, MBB and Matra merged into MBDA … I think … there were alot of merges)
Same missile (just a fraction of a second later) also appears in this Bayern Chemie presentation, together with LFK/NG (lower left) and yet another missile that appears to be connected to one of the Hypersonic projects (lower center)
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i think youll like this thread, it had some interesting info about all these SAM projects