The F-4 can just launch an Aim-120 and stay out of range.
How fast does the harrier take to get to 30k ft?
They literally out sticked the F.3 IRL. and in a dogfight there is no fight.
Exact number is in a book but the AV-8A can get to 40,000 in 142 seconds
As an air to air fighter no.
It absolutely is artificial a lot of the stuff in the game has become artificial all of top Tier needs overhauled
And the lower tiers need to be looked over with a fine tune comb
There’s a lot of things that need work a lot of them are okay though
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Generally yes most planes are close but I have yet to find 1 thing correct about the Harriers.
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Another good example of this is their refusal to fix brimstone now that fire and forget agms are becoming more common another thing is now that aircraft can have a separate battle rating between ground and Air if they really wanted to they could fine tune the balancing based on those battle ratings on CAS capabilities
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I just want to have reduced heat signature at least. It’s so annoying to deal with IR missiles on them.
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But those planes will always be better at BVR due to them being supersonic.
Why is that? Are the 1st gen harriers just better than the 2nd gen ones?
They already do have different BRs. It’s just that no SPAA is actually good enough to counter cas right now.
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I was saying it would be easier to balance now that they do have separate battle ratings once we get better spaa or Sam options along with decompression
A reduced heat sig, and better energy retention are what I want the most out of the harriers at the moment.
Playing the Sqv one is painful because it bleeds speed on par or worse than a Mig-21, and has none of the flight performance to back it up.
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As far as BFM and things of that nature yes they quite literally are.
They also climb better, are faster, climb higher, and have no airspeed limitations.
Not necessarily if both planes can climb at a similar pace.
It shouldn’t bleed hardly any speed the Gr.3 with 5,000 pounds of extra weight and the drag of 5 pylons can sustain over 6G in turns. IRL that is.
Your lucky to get 5G sustained in game.
In current MM with PL-5B spam it definitely needs this right now. Both FRS.1 are already painful to play when you are constantly fighting with F-4S, MiG-23ML, MF1C-200, F-5’s and you have like… really nothing to deal with them.
Yes basically you are defenseless against a lot of contemporary jets that you should be able to deal with fairly reliably.