I thought it was the cooler H39
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How is a light tank cooler than a 63k ton battleship?
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H-39 is balanced off of your high amount of games with it already?
It’s not even released. For all we know it will be what you imagine the SovetSky is. Unkillable.
You have no record of even playing anything that is Russian naval.
Stop with your hypocrisy and bias already guy.
Looking at its on paper stats shows it’s pretty average. 30 second reload aced isn’t anything to write home about, nor is its sub 800 base penetration APCBC.
Given the thin armor belt, it’s probably going to lose sections damn quick like any other 8.7 that isn’t Iowa or Soyuz.
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It’s much closer to reality than you think. Japan was never considered able to build the Yamato, or Musashi.
But guess what? They still did. They built 3 of the class.
Go figure you, you like all the other hypocrite complainers have never touched a Russian vessel in game.
The issue is the naivety and bias of people. History has told nations that “couldn’t” do something, really could.
Russia pushed back the advance from Germany that was “thought” to be never ending.
Japan made the Yamato, which they were considered to be incapable of.
Etc etc.
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In Stona’s Dev blog, he says it will be good side on, but frontally / in the rear it will be much weaker.
I for one like the inclusion of ships that never made it.
But I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy of the people in the forums.
Ahh yes, comparing 1930s allied intelligence on Japan to literal hindsight. Obviously we know in hindsight that Japan was capable of building the Yamato because they did it. Just as we know in hindsight that the USSR had no possibility of or intention to complete the Sovetsky Soyuz.
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Do you get your history from Youtube or just make it up as you go?
Imperial Japan had several decades of shipbuilding experience behind them long before they embarked on the production of the Yamato sisters. You’d know this if you read any book on the subject.
Japanese industry had the capacity and expertise to generate both armour plate en masse and high performance large calibre guns.
Japan had a significant Naval Tradition in terms of it’s Officer Corps and Design Depts. with experience of bringing large designs from the drawing board to production.
Soviet Russia…none of the above. You don’t get to claim having a strong navy because you plonk some metal down alongside some hopes and dreams.
Read a book. If you struggle with some of the particulars I’m sure there are plenty on here who might be able to explain some of the details to you.
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Most of the russian naval tree is pretty arse with Pr23 being the exception with best in class APCBC, fire rate and armor.
Everything else has weird quirks (ie the RU dreadnoughts unable to broadside without getting severely punished) or non existent armor. Soyuz could get hit with a 10~15% armor nerf and still be ridiculously strong.
Yes, the ship is overpowered in game but I don’t believe many people actually want it removed.
Since Russia had to import the required plates from Krupp but 1941 happened. Had Soyuz actually been completed, they probably would have improvised with two plates of lesser thickness layered behind one another.
It took 10 years of research alone for Japan to devise the belt armor plates that made up Yammy and her sisters. Alongside dozens of various designs.
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A reason to grind the German bluewater fleet.
Nice.
With this & Iowa, I’ll be eating nicely at the top end.
After getting Yamato of first, but I know Yamato isn’t ideal.
Correct, but I hate Soyuz cause I find it ugly, no other reasons.
The Japanese military had infighting over the project because even they didn’t think they were capable…
Also have to wonder why the Naval Treaties even included Japan ‘if nobody thought they could make big ships’?
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Indeed they did. But never for anything of the scale of the Yamato.
You should indeed read a book, history is a very good teacher, I recommend it to you.
Should’ve added Switzerland as a signatory to the Washington treaty, we don’t realise just how well their shipyards work
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If SovetSky was completed, they’d likely just do what Germany did. Turtleback armor.
True!
I think our Murican friend is getting the countries all muddled up. Pesky geography…
NOBODY THOUGHT THE DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO WOULD MAKE A NUCLEAR SUBMARINE!
So far they’re all proving me correct in my assumption lol.
If there is one thing most of us forumites can agree upon is that that you make assumptions a great deal of the time.
Whether they bear any relation to reality is another argument entirely…
How’s the ‘notching headfirst into missile’ practice going?
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They also included France and Italy… whom really didn’t have much on the plate unless your counting cruisers and some lighter battleships.
Maybe since the shrapnel deck is fat in the yard plans.
Her construction would make her extremely cumbersome though, with a 940ish meter turning circle.