Gryazev Shipunov GSh-6-23 | Грязев Шипунов ГШ-6-23

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For people who are interested in learning about ________ (Insert said equipment)

I don’t understand how you “don’t get it”

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You say most powerful but then you have the American Gau-8 avenger 30mm Gatling gun first prototype made in 71’.

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Slightly different beast of a gun, this is for light applications, not designed to be a tank buster.

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Ah okay

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whats the diffrence between it and the M61 vulcan other then 3mm. M61 Vulcan desinged 46’

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AH it’s gas operated thats cool. Now what I mean is ballistics wise.

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Much higher fire rate, arguably more accurate (depend on a hard vs soft mount), rounds have more knock-down power, and the HE/HEI/HEI-T have more explosive filler.

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Does it have a faster fire rate cause it’s gas operated?

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Yes, it’s hard to explain; but essentially, the longer it fires; until it reaches its max rotational speed, it can fire faster and faster, it has an electric motor to start the process though.

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Just asking cause if it is faster I am going to add it to a 50mm Gatling gun design of mine.

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There’s a bit more physics behind it; but yeah, it’s faster to a degree.

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yeah I unsderstand how the physics work.

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here are the pros and cons of it though. Gas Operation:

  • Advantages:
    • Offers a very high rate of fire, as the gas from the fired rounds can be used to cycle the action.
    • It’s relatively self-sustaining, needing no external power sources like air or electricity.
    • Can be more compact and efficient in terms of power-to-weight ratio.
  • Disadvantages:
    • The gas pressure can be difficult to regulate, and the system may be more prone to overheating, which can reduce reliability over time.
    • Requires more complex maintenance, as gas-operated systems may involve intricate components that need cleaning and maintenance.
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Yep

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Also, if you want to talk Soviet tank buster, you want the GSh-2-30 or 6-30

(Should have been able to use UBR-8 & 11 (APDS and APFSDS) IIRC)

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I prefer this though the Pneumatic. * Pneumatic Operation:

  • Advantages:
    • Very reliable with fewer mechanical components, reducing the chance of malfunction.
    • Can be extremely fast, providing high rates of fire.
    • The air pressure can be regulated to control firing speed, which can be an advantage for precision in some contexts.
  • Disadvantages:
    • Requires a constant air supply, which can limit mobility or necessitate a bulky, compressed air storage system.
    • Might not be as powerful as gas-operated systems in terms of sustained fire without significant air tank capacity.
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and to GSH-6-30 the Gau-8 still has more punch with it’s 30x173mm to the 6-30’s 30x165mm

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Maybe do a Mix of the Pneumatic with gas.

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Maybe but it could fire the APFSDS round of the 2A42/2A72, Aka UBR-11, so roughly 120mm of pen.

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you win there. The PGU-14/B API ammunition can penetrate 55 millimeters of armor at a distance of 1,220 meters and up to 76 millimeters of armor at closer ranges of approximately 300 meters . Huh this comes from a site that is call warisboring.