the brits?
The FRES SV was a contender but lost to the AJAX
The Modular turret on the Patria was added by Lockheed martin UK to try and export it
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I mean it could still be added just at a little bit lower BR ig if they add the Ajax.
i mean, is the AJAX better than the FRES SV tho? feels like they be the same BR, maybe higher for the SV
Yea idk i haven’t gotten into the FRES so i wouldn’t know but im assuming the Ajax could be a 11.7 or 12.0 or smth like that with some additions and modifications done to it.
think it’s like 10.7, maybe 11.0 material, nothing that really wows me
Yea. They could always add other things in tho too lile the Boxer MIV or smth.
I reckon Ajax will be 10.3/10.7 without Javelin (On par with things like Puma, 2S38, etc etc) and 11.0 / 11.3 (depending on Javelin performance) with Javelin being an FnF ATGM and so is on par with the other FnF ATGM slingers like the Namer, Puma, KF41.
That being said. As Britain has no 11.0 or 11.3. That does basically mean either uptiering 10.7 to 11.0 (which might not necessarily be the end of the world) or using it at 11.7/12.0
But I do hope we get both, one with and one without the ATGM
This is of course not factoring in Britain tax
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Very true. We got no options at top tier lights tanks rn. They could add like 3 new ones just to make a good slope of vehicles to an 11.7 or smth
Btw heres this…
Except the Warrior CSP should be replaced with smth stronger, and also Britian has wayyyy more options than just an ADATS at only 11.3 for SPAA. Kinda would piss me of if they dont add the Sky Sabre or smth like that.
Yeah, but has issues. Like Id place VERDI-2 at 10.7 and the CR2 Streetfighter 2 would be extremely unlikely to get FnF Brimstones as they were just mock-ups. So would basically be a CR2 with a dozer blade, which it could and should get on most of the variants anyway.
With the current state of top tier. Id drop the BR of the 11.7 CR2s down to 11.3. Drop all the 12.0s down to 11.7 and then maybe, just maybe the CR3 or CR3(P) would be 12.0 worthy if they allow it to be good.
Guess we just have to pray and hope for next major and they dont do a repeat of previous years where Britain was behind and was just left with nothing for a year+ for made up reasons (had it with the intro of gen 4 and with new top tier BBs a few years ago)
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Including variants if they dont nerf them first
I double dare gaijin just to increase acceleration on all challengers just so you don’t grind to a halt when making a small turn and at least have a chance to keep up with everything else around them.
Fanks
I doubt theyll do anything to the existing C2s in the game, but probably change the C3 bc its the base example of what they will look like and since its been a while theyll have to update it bc its coming out. Hopefully this includes different future variants for a stronger TT.
Smh my poor Stormer FVT925-T sat in a corner, crying I tell you, crying.
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No not really, FRES SV is just a CV90 with a CTA40, and Ajax is fat as shit.
Probably put Ajax at 9.7-10.0 and FRES SV 10.0-10.3 depending on how great the mobility difference ends up being. They are CV9040 equivalents basically.
Remember Ajax doesn’t have a ATGM lmao
Yea but then the Ajax and FRES will be the same or barely better than the Desert Warrior.
I mean, that’s cause (For warthunder’s purposes) they aren’t massively better than the DW.
The CTA40 APFSDS is basically a little worse than the CV9040C’s top APFSDS, and the FRES 100% doesn’t have an ATGM, and the Ajax only has a technical compatibility and presumed use.
Armour wise neither is anything to write home about either.
Just cause it’s newer doesn’t mean it’s magically 100% better.
Yes but GB still needs smth better than a 10.0. Also with spaa
Then look else where?
The LMUK Boxer or Patria would probably be 10.7 like the Boxer Vilkas in the German tree.
There’s also the Indian BMP-2Ms that are floating about. Though that Jordainain FV101 modernisation with the R-2 ATGMs and Ukrainain 30mm might fill a similar role if it can fire the ATGMs on the move.
Maybe the Ukrainian thing but i dont think GB needs to keep putting in indian stuff
India is an official UK subtree, it’s stuff is fair game, wither you like it or not.