That’s major nation bias for ya. How do you think I feel as someone that is mostly interested in British stuff?
Same goes for Japan, China, Israel, Sweden and to be honest, even France.
Again, the IAR-93B is very nice to see and I personally think that it will perform well enough at 9.0 or even 9.3. The lack of flares at those BRs really isn’t such a big deal and AIM-9Bs/R-3S’ are still pretty much the norm up to 9.3.
The Iar93 will be forgotten 2 weeks after everyone gets it at 9.7 wirh R3S. There’s no reason to play it unless you’re unto suffering.
but its at 9.7
Yeah, right now. BRs change over time and the plane hasn’t been officially released either, so that initial BR might even be a placeholder.
We play warthunder if you dont like suffering you are playing the wrong game
Let’s hope this is still WIP because the plane is a mess right now, in game it’s an amalgamation between the A and B variants, the engines are also wrong.
Nice? Is a 9.7 plane that ill most likely end in 10.0-10.7 games were it will face AIM-9L
Nevermind the Aim9L, in an uptier this one is not making it past the Aim9G or Aim9J against similarly tiered planes.
while true all aspect missiles are worse, they don’t need to be behind you to kill you
Dunno man, I’ve been enjoying my J35A, T-2, Milan, Jaguar GR.1, etc
Plus, as it has been said numerous times, 9.7 might just be a placeholder BR and if it isn’t, the BR will get adjusted over time.
“May be” mean nothing as it may also be the final br.
I’m talking as it is now in the files. IF changes will come i may change my opinion
BUT this plane as it is now is a turd that is not even worth the grind or wasting time playing it
Well, the T2 has Aim9Ps (which are way better than the R3s) and about 50-60% more speed than the Vultur and the Jag has even better missiles than the T2 and about 40% more speed than the Vultur. Both the Jag and the T2 are at thr same BR as the Vultur. The Jag also gets flares…RIP Vultur. The J35A performance-wise compared to the Vultur is not even close and gets similar missiles. The Milan is not usually available and, from memory, it was fairly underwhelming to use which why they removed it.
I was totally agreeing with you.
The Jaguar GR.1 doesn’t get flares, only chaff and the AIM-9Gs are pretty much on par with the 9Ps with the Gs being a bit faster, but the Ps having slightly better maneuverability.
Forgot about those:
But again, maybe they are still working the armament options, as when I first went to test fly with the wiki link, it didn’t had all the premade loadouts that it has right now.
Or at least I hope so, because I really don’t want to go make bug report, I’m too lazy to write them :^/
The Aim9P is based on the Aim9J as far as I remember and has noticeably smaller range than the Aim9G as far as I experienced. In terms of G pull there’s little if anything between them. The Jag Gr1, the T2 and the J35A all have weapon solutions on the Iar93 which the Iar93 cannot respond to but with a prayer. They’re much faster and in some cases have much better weapons but more importantly they also have solutions against the other usual danger planes that you may encounter at 9.7 like the Harriers, early Mig21 and Lightning. All of the planes you mentioned bar the Milan do belong at 9.7 imo.
The J35A only gets AIM-9Bs and guns
What exactly is so dangerous about the Harriers you can encounter at 9.7? The only one I can think of is the FRS.1 (e) with 2x AIM-9Ls, but just like an A-10, AMX, Su-25, etc you can just stay out of their missile range.
That’s more like it
Harriers would have superior missiles compared to the Vultur - Aim9G vs R3S and better acceleration and flares. So a Harrier could target the Vultur from far away, the Vultur will not have flares and the Harrier could accelerate away once is out of missiles.
Anyway, a bit of a moot point with the Vultur seemingly moved down to 9.0 to compete with the F86s now!
Still a bit odd to me that in GRB its 9.3 given its relatively conventional weapons vs everyone swinging IR SAMs, flares and MCLOS/TV guided weapons around it.
Nice change still.